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#3027477 - 06/08/10 11:02 AM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Ighten]
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The haze looks natural to me, but I live in a high humidity region that's a lot more hazy than that. The ground in the top picture looks pretty rough in comparison, a flat image with some sparse, simple trees stuck in it. Both planes look incredible though.
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#3027678 - 06/08/10 04:52 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Desode]
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Originally Posted By: Desode
Originally Posted By: Bastido
I've owned WoP for a week or so now and love the graphics engine but even on the realistic setting the plane feels like it is on rails and the gameplay is far too easy. Ho-hum.

I think there is a mod that makes it better but can't remember the name of it or where to get it. Anyone here know where this mod is for download?


LOL !!!!! Dude if you can beat WOP on full sim settings with Limited Fuel,, Limited Ammo and No retrys,,, Both the entire Campaign and Missions.
Then you are a God !
I have yet to see anyone on the entire World Wide Web pull this off !
I have posted this on just about every Sim forum I know of and No one has been been able to pull it off.
I would pay money ,,, GOOD Money to see it done.

I don't mean to jump on you about this, its just that when you said:

"I've owned WoP for a week or so now and love the graphics engine but even on the realistic setting the plane feels like it is on rails and the gameplay is far too easy"

I fell out of my chair in tears because when WOP is on full sim settings with Limited Fuel,, Limited Ammo and No retrys, I personally thing it is one of the Hardest games I have ever played,and I have played every sim that I know of.

Yes it is easy on Realistic, but you can't call a game easy when you are not playing it on the best setting of the game (Sim).. That makes no sense at all..
Realistic is a not much better then arcade. You can't call a game easy when you are not playing the game on the setting that makes it not easy.
Arcade and even realistic are there to make the game easy.
Now I hope you understand what I'm saying. I just think you didn't realize what you said. I mean even Il2 1946 is easy on realistic.
Desode





Where do I set limited fuel and ammo? I have it set to unlimited retries too because I don't want to have to go back to the beginning for missions that play exactly the same every time. What I mean by too easy is the flight model and getting a kill. A few bullets and they fall to the ground. Also, arrows point to enemy and they also show on map. This game requires very little skill and for someone who has been playing PC flights sims since 1993 it is Ho-hum.

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#3027681 - 06/08/10 04:55 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: JFM]
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Hey, Bastido,

That's great that you got RoF looking that good on your machine. Sincerely. I had the settings cranked on mine and it didn't compare to WoP; elsewhere I've posted side-by-side screens of the sims and it wasn't even close. Although, I enjoy many sims and don't fly one because it isn't as good as another in some regard or other; I haven't any sim allegiance that demands I only fly one. What's really the shame to me is RoF's landscape doesn't resemble France or Belgium.


OK, I will make some screen shots of both and post side by side photos in the screenshot sub forum when I get the time. I will let you know when they are up.

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#3027683 - 06/08/10 05:03 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
The haze looks natural to me, but I live in a high humidity region that's a lot more hazy than that. The ground in the top picture looks pretty rough in comparison, a flat image with some sparse, simple trees stuck in it. Both planes look incredible though.


The image of RoF doesn't actually show it at its best cpability so I will show you what RoF can really look like and even without using highest settings because frame rate is still king so don't want to display unplayable settings. The landscape in RoF actually has lots of trees and the towns have lots of detailed buildings just like in WoP.

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#3027711 - 06/08/10 06:10 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Bastido]
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Yes, Bastido, love to see how it looks on your machine. Seems with every patch it looked worse and worse on mine and I never got rid of the "shimmers." Many graphic glitches, too, and catastrophic hangs. With all other sims I have settings cranked and look/run fine. I suspect RoF doesn't like my computer and my computer doesn't like RoF.

I agree that WoP could use traffic, etc., but RoF certainly isn't the gold standard. Its airfields and landscapes are barren, too, save for a few barges, trucks and the odd train. It has more than WoP, to be sure, I concede. BTW, I wish combat sims had moving clouds. Static clouds are just so fake. As far as looks, RoF's clouds look good to me when you get close to them.
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#3027722 - 06/08/10 06:37 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Bastido]
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Hey Bastido, It's when you start the single missions.
If you play wop on reaslistic the plane is on rails.
On realistic it turns of air physics and your plan always flys level and straight,, there is no setting the flaps or any manual engine control or anything. Realistic mode is arcade mode with some spins added in.

I'm in Nashville on a business trip right now, so I can't check and tell you where the settings are on the campaign. I beat the campaign when the game was BOP, and that was a good while ago.

Just play some of the single missions on Full sim mode, and you'll notice a big difference.
I'm 36 years old and have been playing Sims since the C64 days and Amiga.

Wop does not have Il2's full depth (Full QMB, FMB), but on full sim mode using engine management and all those aspects, it is not easy by any means.
Thats all I'm saying.

And


Yes ROF can look pretty Darn Good, I play it maxed out on my system and it looks sweet.
Its still not Wop visuals, but a very good looking game.

Wop's maps are damn near identical recreations from the actual time frame.

They spent a long time makeing them.
They used thousands of aerial photos and city photos and WWII maps to recreate each city to almost perfect layout. Every street Block and building position and tree is right where is was in that mission's time frame.
Have a good evening, Desode
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#3027728 - 06/08/10 06:45 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: JFM]
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JFM, what kind of card are you using? If your using a Nvidia card you need to turn off the HDR effects and you can only do that manually in the Coinfig ,since the New patch.
Then once you have that turned off in there, use combined for AA.
Mess with the combined settings to tweak your frame rate.
I also recommend getting Nhancer to tweak your Nividia card settings.


The ROF forums has lots of posts on the matter and you can get rid of the simmering.
Go over there and Search Simmering.
When I get home to ohio sunday , I'll Pm you a list of how I have everything set up. If you still are having shimmering problems.
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#3027801 - 06/08/10 09:31 PM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Desode]
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Desode,

First, Ohio, eh? Columbus is my hometown.

Second, I look forward to any help with shimmering; thanks for the offer. I have Nvidia--bear with me, as I know airplanes, not computers--an "ASUS EN9800GX2/G/2DI/1G GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0," if that informs you of anything. The strange graphics are the worst aspect (I posted them in the ROF forum, just search). I reformatted a few weeks ago and haven't even reinstalled RoF.

Re: suggestions you have. I'm open to them only if they do not affect any other sim or program adversely. I don't want to have to twiddle a bunch of knobs to get RoF looking good at the sacrifice of anything else. I searched RoF forums for help but after enduring the usual "you are overheating" comments (I wasn't) I tried a few suggested fixes but nothing worked. Most maddeningly was every patch made things worse, not better. Once they added the gamma settings it looked/ran so poorly that I just gave up on it. I started off very excited about RoF because WW1 holds my extreme interest but each patch just eroded enjoyability.

Anyway, look forward to your PM. Thanks again.
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#3027925 - 06/09/10 06:00 AM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: JFM]
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Yep combined will remove all shimmers from ROF in nvidia cards with nhancer.. This will only apply to the exe for ROF so it wont effect anything else..

In the config for rof turn post off.. I think the HDR and post settings look fine from the cockpit but pretty poor in other situations probably because of the interactions of the sunglare (though they have now added three other variants of HDR. It looks fine with it off)..





I think Bastido is correct though, the landscapes only on medium in these shots and trees are turned down to near..
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#3027979 - 06/09/10 07:06 AM Re: You're doing it wrong [Re: Ighten]
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I'd like to see some landscape shots of ROF at a couple hundred feet. Max settings, lower than that doesn't say much. The interesting thing around here is that most screenshots for any sim are taken thousands of feet up, where landscapes don't show up as quite as badly, like a car that looks great at 50' but up close you see how bad the paint is. wink A brown square representing a farm is almost acceptable if you get enough altitude. Wings of Prey shots frequently get down low to show the detail that people are enjoying so much. Tilled soil looks like tilled soil, not just streaks of brown. In WoP, you actually WANT to get low since you don't lose the suspension of disbelief like you do in most other sims. People enjoy seeing that they have a full environment that looks right.
WoP isn't a trainer that has a goal of teaching you to actually fly a Spitfire. It's entertainment. They do a bang up job of offering a sim and actually including graphics that add to the experience rather than taking away from it like most sims do.
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