I can guarantee this..

Awesome beach!!! Hey wheres theese training missions at you put together i keep hearing about btw?

There's links in the sticky thread: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2366722/EECH_Miscellany_install_featur.html

Though the missions were made long ago when EECH was much less modded, so not everything may be up to date.

Yeah..I never did EECH justice. I'd love to expand on them..or completely redo them at some point.

OH YEAH!, that would be GRAND!

I have something I want you to help me decide!

In the Apache many things may have different settings between the two cockpits. E.g. the pilot may have a different weapon selected from the CPG (and both may use them at the same time!).

In EECH we only have one real pilot, you. Do you think it would be useful or confusing or annoying that the two cockpits have different settings. E.g. that if you selected the gun in the back seat, then switched to the front seat and would have to select the gun again?

In the Apache there are tons of settings which the pilot and CPG may set independently. In addition to weapons they may have different targeting system, different LOAL settings, different rocket salvos, gun bursts etc.
Would you think it would be useful to be able to have each cockpit have different settings for these in EECH, and e.g. let the CPG cockpit be for precision attacks, while setting the back cockpit up differently and use it for navigation and quick snapshots? Or would it just be confusing? Or annoying to have to set up all these settings the way you want them twice?

i think it might be nice to have one cockpit in air to ground config and the other in air to air...
so maybe it would be nice to have the choice

I'd love to see fidelity - if separate settings are possible in the Apache then that's how we should find it in EECH - might take you a few flights to get used to the idea, but it would just become part of picking the seat you wanted (and then checking your weapons settings before you lay into a target)

I agree with your final thoughts - i think it be great to have the CP/G set one way (for one type of attack) and the Pilot with another setup - find yourself presented with a target that the CP/G setup would be more efficient in dealing with and just swap seats quickly, rather than having to get your own pit settings in order!

Anyway - just my thoughts on a sunny afternoon!

(First day off in quite a long time and I'm taking advantage by catching up with the sites I like)

Martin...

Thanks for asking. I like the idea.

Ultimately, it would not necessarily make it more confusing, just different than the current. If the objective is to add difficulty, it would achieve this due to the additional setup required to have all weapons and sensors configured, prior to encountering a threat. If the objective is to add realism, my opinion is it would only go half way, meaning the pilots tasks would be different based on a two seat arrangement (real), but then that realism is reduced when one virtual pilot has to think as if he is two different personalities (not real). More challenging, not necessarily more real. A matter of preference, I guess.

For me, what it boils down to is, what sensors would be available most immediately and in the best configuration? Quick execution. If I'm occupying the front seat heads down in the ORT with hellfire selected and co-pilot calls out a close immediate threat, if switching seats to fire cannon at the close threat is more easily available with a one button push (esc), than that's the way to go for me.

My take is, does it make sense to limit the current sensor and/or weapon to one seat at a time? Only if one requires an additional element of difficulty. Kinda like engine realism. If it's not too much more work to make it an optional feature (like engine realism), maybe you can add it as an option.

You may be exploring the future possibilities of what other developers will face if they attempt to pull off a two seat sim and offer the option of one or two players occupying that aircraft in a multiplayer environment.

Needless to say, I love your work.

Arneh IMHO you always doing the most realistic reflection of avionics, if it is not a big problem, much better to do two separate cockpits with the different settings.
Cheers, and thanks for work:)