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#3012223 - 05/15/10 05:06 AM "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED
Alemart Member Registered: 06/09/07 Posts: 307 Loc: Zárate, Buenos Aires Province,...	Hi guys! ^_^, i installed the 1.13 upgrade and i noticed some changes of importance like: Apparent modified and/or re arranged settings on EECH.ini The installer overwrites a lot of config files like forms, formcomp and others without warning (luckily i had backups :P) Modifications and re arrangements of the information found on the GWUT that is not documented on the readme, that represents a setback for me, as i had made important changes to my GWUT file and now i have to merge them with the new GWUT without knowing the new values and parameters :S Otherwise i LOOOOOVE the viper XD and the simulation is running good on my computer so far, but i think i have to make more tests (just to be sure). Is there any way for me to obtain the necessary documentation on the new changes that i mentioned before?. Thank you! ^_^ ***UPDATE* OK, now i am a little upset, as my pilot informations has been CORRUPTED :O, my rank is now Lt., and i lost ALL MY MEDALS AND KILL MARKS AND STATICS AND MISSION STATICS AND EVERYTHING ..... Replacing the data with a backup made no difference..... HELP please *UPDATE* Campaigns have also been touched without warning..... (i had edited many of them ~_~) *UPDATE* This is the crashing log of when i was trying to find why my pilot info was gone: Executable build date: May 11 2010 Executable build time: 00:37:08 Crash details: Location: 007339ce Reason: Access violation Tried to read from memory location: 0x00000000 Register dump: EAX: 0x105d7d90 EBX: 0x6f7a6152 ECX: 0x105d8818 EDX: 0x00000000 EDI: 0x04aa0e20 ESI: 0x00000001 EBP: 0x0307f658 ESP: 0x0307f614 EIP: 0x007339ce Floating point details: Control word: 0xffff0e7f Status word: 0xffff0000 ST(0): 0000000030d00ce3bc97 ST(1): 0a000000e49715b342fd ST(2): 30d00ce330d00ce354b0 ST(3): 00000000000060d00c40 ST(4): 00000000000000000000 ST(5): 0000c0f01869a1d00b40 ST(6): 0000000000cdcccc1340 ST(7): 0000000000e1f1b6f83f Stack dump: 105d7d90 105d8818 006fbae5 04aa87c0 00000002 006fba90 00434b18 00000001 04aa87c0 0000000d 00000005 004344d5 00434a90 01febcdc 00000006 00000005 04aa87c0 0307f6bc 0042c30a 00000001 0042c37f 0307f6d8 0307f6c4 00000000 00000000 0042c28c 00000080 00004800 0307f6c4 00004800 00407b6f 00000000 00000000 00000003 00000001 00000000 00000000 00a13ed0 027b833c 7371f590 736eece6 00000000 0307f6d8 00408a15 00000002 00000000 01000001 00000000 00000000 0307f714 0042bff0 0000007c 0049465f 0049016d d7b71e3e 11cf4551 26dc7a41 35cdc20d 00000500 00000400 0307f71c 00000001 00000000 00000000 0307ffb4 00401523 4c505041 54414349 004e4f49 7ffdcc00 02080000 0307f950 02080000 0307f748 00000000 00000000 7c800000 7c800000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 7c915d48 0307f88e 7c913400 000001e4 0307f81c 7c927ef3 0307f88e 00000524 7c910000 7c9148b8 7c915d48 00000000 00000001 0307f88c 00000000 00000001 7c910000 7c9100d0 0307f7f4 00000001 0307f82c 7c920385 7c910000 00000000 0307f8e8 7c927dba 7c910000 0307f88e 0007f888 0307f888 0307f88e 7c927e5f 7c98e178 7c927e09 00006d19 0307f92c 7c809036 0307f8b6 0007f8b0 0307f8b0 7c913400 5cf681b1 7c98e178 0307f9a4 7c910000 0307f954 0307f88c 0307f88c 00000000 00009a5e 001a1f18 7c923425 74520000 6365446c 5065646f 746e696f 03007265 0307f8b4 00000000 00009a5e 001a1f18 7c923425 74520000 6365446c 5065646f 746e696f 74007265 00007265 00001c42 0307f844 00000000 0307f9f4 7c91e920 7c927e10 ffffffff 7c927e09 7c928047 7c910000 0307f92c 00006d19 0307f9a4 00000000 00000000 00000001 0307f9a8 00000000 00000001 7c800000 7c8000f0 0307f910 00000001 0307f948 00110010 7c80903c 00000000 0307fa04 0307f970 00300000 7c920222 00000012 003009e8 00300000 00000000 0307f948 02ee0000 0307fb8c 7c91e920 000000a1 0307fb9c 7c921028 7c921086 7c9201db 00000000 00000088 71600000 0307fbb8 7c921028 7c921086 7c9201db 00000000 00000088 00000000 7c923425 65440000 65646f63 6e696f50 00726574 0307f9d0 0307f9d0 00000000 00006d19 001a1fc0 7c923425 65440000 65646f63 6e696f50 00726574 00726574 02ed0178 00001c42 0307f960 00000000 0307fb98 7c91e920 7c927e10 ffffffff 7c927e09 00000000 7c800000 0307fa40 *UPDATE* New crash log, there is an instability of some sort with the pilot selection/creation/deleting apparently, crash log: Executable build date: May 11 2010 Executable build time: 00:37:08 Crash details: Location: 007339ce Reason: Access violation Tried to read from memory location: 0x00000000 Register dump: EAX: 0x105d4078 EBX: 0x6f7a6152 ECX: 0x105d8818 EDX: 0x00000000 EDI: 0x04aa0e20 ESI: 0x00000001 EBP: 0x0307f658 ESP: 0x0307f614 EIP: 0x007339ce Floating point details: Control word: 0xffff0e7f Status word: 0xffff0000 ST(0): 3246136ab8030000ffff ST(1): 0000000000000000ffff ST(2): 00000000000000000000 ST(3): 0000000000008cd00c40 ST(4): 00000000000000000000 ST(5): 000080a85f4a6ccf0b40 ST(6): 0000000000cdcccc1340 ST(7): 00000000001e2cf6f63f Stack dump: 105d4078 105d8818 006fbae5 04aa87c0 00000002 006fba90 00434b18 00000001 04aa87c0 0000000d 00000005 004344d5 00434a90 01febcdc 00000006 00000005 04aa87c0 0307f6bc 0042c30a 00000001 0042c37f 0307f6d8 0307f6c4 00000000 00000000 0042c28c 00000080 00004800 0307f6c4 00004800 00407b6f 00000000 00000000 00000003 00000001 00000000 00000000 00a13ed0 027b833c 7371f590 736eece6 00000000 0307f6d8 00408a15 00000002 00000000 01000001 00000000 00000000 0307f714 0042bff0 0000007c 0049465f 0049016d d7b71e3e 11cf4551 26dc7a41 35cdc20d 00000500 00000400 0307f71c 00000001 00000000 00000000 0307ffb4 00401523 4c505041 54414349 004e4f49 7ffdcc00 02080000 0307f950 02080000 0307f748 00000000 00000000 7c800000 7c800000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 7c915d48 0307f88e 7c913400 000001e4 0307f81c 7c927ef3 0307f88e 00000524 7c910000 7c9148b8 7c915d48 00000000 00000001 0307f88c 00000000 00000001 7c910000 7c9100d0 0307f7f4 00000001 0307f82c 7c920385 7c910000 00000000 0307f8e8 7c927dba 7c910000 0307f88e 0007f888 0307f888 0307f88e 7c927e5f 7c98e178 7c927e09 00006d19 0307f92c 7c809036 0307f8b6 0007f8b0 0307f8b0 7c913400 5cf681b1 7c98e178 0307f9a4 7c910000 0307f954 0307f88c 0307f88c 00000000 00009a5e 001a1f18 7c923425 74520000 6365446c 5065646f 746e696f 03007265 0307f8b4 00000000 00009a5e 001a1f18 7c923425 74520000 6365446c 5065646f 746e696f 74007265 00007265 0000dd63 0307f844 00000000 0307f9f4 7c91e920 7c927e10 ffffffff 7c927e09 7c928047 7c910000 0307f92c 00006d19 0307f9a4 00000000 00000000 00000001 0307f9a8 00000000 00000001 7c800000 7c8000f0 0307f910 00000001 0307f948 00110010 7c80903c 00000000 0307fa04 0307f970 00300000 7c920222 00000012 003009e8 00300000 00000000 0307f948 02ee0000 0307fb8c 7c91e920 000000a1 0307fb9c 7c921028 7c921086 7c9201db 00000000 00000088 71600000 0307fbb8 7c921028 7c921086 7c9201db 00000000 00000088 00000000 7c923425 65440000 65646f63 6e696f50 00726574 0307f9d0 0307f9d0 00000000 00006d19 001a1fc0 7c923425 65440000 65646f63 6e696f50 00726574 00726574 02ed0178 0000dd63 0307f960 00000000 0307fb98 7c91e920 7c927e10 ffffffff 7c927e09 00000000 7c800000 0307fa40 *UPDATE* I just find out that there is a new pilot file called "playersv" (previously was players2), i replaced it with my previous players file but nothing happened and there were no pilots to select, i backed it up and deleted it and now it seems to work normally, but the only pilot is "Razorworks". Again, this was not documented not in the readme and/or the forums. *UPDATE* The following error happens when i try to fly on my campaign: ******************************** FATAL ******************************* FILE_TAG: unrecognised tag END However, after searching trough FORMS, FORMCOMP and the campaign files, i could not find such "tag" O_o?, there were other errors as well but those were related to different unit counts and fewer landing spots on the carriers, so i corrected them. *UPDATE* New crash, i still can not fly my campaign, and i need to edit the position and quantities of the landing spots of the carriers but i am not able to find the values :S, did someone remember that? Crash log: Executable build date: May 11 2010 Executable build time: 00:37:08 Crash details: Location: 00736771 Reason: Access violation Tried to read from memory location: 0x00000000 Register dump: EAX: 0x043647e4 EBX: 0x03070000 ECX: 0x00000000 EDX: 0x00000000 EDI: 0x0307ebd4 ESI: 0x00732d00 EBP: 0x0307ebb8 ESP: 0x0307eb18 EIP: 0x00736771 Floating point details: Control word: 0xffff0e7f Status word: 0xffff4020 ST(0): 3246136ab8030000ffff ST(1): 0000000000000080ff3f ST(2): 00000000000000000000 ST(3): 0000000000000080ff3f ST(4): 00000000000000000080 ST(5): 00000000000000800040 ST(6): 00000000000000000000 ST(7): 00000000000000000000 Stack dump: 00313631 0000000a 007371ad 0307eba0 0000000a 0307eb8c 007369b0 0307ebe4 0078a945 0307eb44 0073678e 00000000 0307ebf8 00788c0c 0307eb58 0307ebe2 00c80000 0307eb74 043647e4 00c80000 fffffffd ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 04412000 0307ec08 0307ebd4 0307eb00 0307ec08 0307ebd4 043647e4 00732d2e 043647e4 000022e0 007326eb 0307ebd0 0307ebd4 00000000 0051ebf1 043647e4 00000000 0307ebd4 73313631 03070074 00566560 00007473 11922250 11849890 043647e4 11922250 000000a1 043647e4 00788c30 000007e8 11849890 0307ec2c 0051f356 043647c0 11922250 11922250 043647c0 00000004 0307ec64 00000008 0307ec54 0051f37b 00000040 00000008 0056479e 00000004 00000011 00000000 00000000 11849890 0307ec9c 0051e5ab 00000008 ffffffff 00000006 0000000b 11849890 00000006 0000000c 00000000 00000005 00000034 00000011 00000005 00000030 000000a1 00000000 00000000 0307ece0 0051e87f 00000000 00000016 00000898 11849890 00000001 11905410 118dc010 00000011 00000005 00000000 00000000 00000001 11849890 11905410 00000870 0307f63c 004b6906 04a947e0 0000000e 11849890 000007bc 004b6986 0000000e 00000000 000007bc 004b7b18 00000001 00000002 00000006 0056d1c7 00000008 00000007 00000001 00000007 0000001c 0073ab38 7c92005d 00000001 00735c18 7c91dc6a 7c91dc6a 7c810cd0 00001148 0307ed84 0307ed8c 00000008 0000000e 0000ffe0 009d48ce 00001148 00000000 00007f81 00000000 7c91cffa 7c809c2b 00001148 0307f1e0 0307ed78 007364ee 00000000 00000001 009d48ce 00000000 00732b51 00735d81 00000000 009d48ce 00007f81 00732b81 009d48ce 00732bce 7c91e514 ffffffff 00406fc0 415c3a43 69686372 20736f76 70206564 72676f72 5c616d61 3445af88 726f7772 635c736b 6f6d6d6f 75615c6e 5c6f6964 45455053 435c4843 0000000e 575c4750 104d0178 43502e33 1500004d 4d000000 34435010 00000007 0307efc0 104d0370 020da970 15ebc870 020d5160 3445af90 0fb67a6c 15ebc868 020da9fc 104d0178 0307ee5c 00000001 7c9200b8 104dffd8 0307ef28 7c920041 104d06e8 7c92005d 3444d699 104dffe1 3444d698 418f19c4 0000040f 00000000 bf34ce2c 3e2ef68d 3f78654c be2f6080 12c98b70 104d0178 104d0000 7c920222 00000002 104d06e8 104d0000 104dffe0 0307eea4 3f2f6f45 3444d698 7c91e920 00001b1f 00000010 7c920222 7c92019b 7c9201db 00000000 00000000 3444d690 3f800000 00000000 00000000 104d0000 0000d8f8 3444d698 0307ef04 104d0178 0000d8f8 00010000 00000002 0307ee6c 00000000 *UPDATE*** Another crash log, i think it is GWUT related because that is what i have been editing now, but i have not found any inconsistencies on the GWUT itself :S Crash log: Executable build date: May 11 2010 Executable build time: 00:37:08 Crash details: Location: 00734a33 Reason: Access violation Tried to read from memory location: 0x00000000 Register dump: EAX: 0x00000000 EBX: 0x00000000 ECX: 0x00000000 EDX: 0x0307e5c4 EDI: 0x00000000 ESI: 0x0307e5c4 EBP: 0x0307e5e0 ESP: 0x0307e584 EIP: 0x00734a33 Floating point details: Control word: 0xffff0e7f Status word: 0xffff4020 ST(0): d1ad1f46659d88edfebf ST(1): 0000000000000080ff7f ST(2): 0000000000000080ff7f ST(3): 00000000000000000000 ST(4): 00000000000000000000 ST(5): 00000000000000000000 ST(6): 00000000000000c80540 ST(7): 00000000000000c80740 Stack dump: 0307e5e8 00000000 00000000 00734e86 30300034 00003835 00000001 0307e5dc 00737e61 0307e5dc 009d48b4 0076ec77 00000000 c8000000 00764007 00000001 00000000 00000002 00000000 00732c04 00000000 00000000 00000000 0307e614 00734fea 00000000 00733ff2 00004007 00000000 40790000 00000000 00000000 00000000 40790000 00000000 00000000 0307ee58 0049cbd7 48410030 4434362d 61704120 20656863 676e6f4c 00776f62 00200031 00200020 00200020 00200020 00320035 00340032 33382e33 32003331 0036392e 31003531 30003030 3200352e 00303030 322e3237 00323232 37003531 2d00352e 332e3132 33003200 3436332e 33003000 2d00352e 342d0031 34003000 38310035 00310030 35003531 36382e38 00343100 2e37352d 38353932 30303500 00330030 30303035 30303400 00200000 00650064 00700020 006f0072 00720067 006d0061 005c0061 00610052 006f007a 00770072 0072006f 0073006b 0063005c 0068006f 006b006f 006d0075 0047005c 00550057 00310054 00330031 00580030 0043002e 00560053 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0307e824 00090000 7c920222 00000045 000a0d38 00090000 000b1c60 0307e7fc 00000000 0307ea40 7c91e920 7c920228 ffffffff 7c920222 7c92019b 7c9201db 00000000 0307ed74 0307ed4c 00000000 7c91ff2d 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000228 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00001259 0307e648 00090000 0307ffdc 7c91e920 7c9242b8 ffffffff 7c9242af 0001d0ba 00000045 0307e83c 80100080 0307ffdc 7c91e920 7c920060 ffffffff 00000000 7c91ff2d 0307e970 7c8109ff 00000000 00000080 00000000 00000006 00000018 0000000c 0307e958 00000042 00000000 0307e93c 001a001a 000b1cbe 0000000c 0000000c 00000002 7c910101 7ffddc00 0000001a 00000000 00000001 001a001a 7c920435 7c92043e 0307ecd0 00020024 0307eabc 00000005 7c924388 7ffd9000 00000002 0307e994 Edited by Alemart (05/15/10 09:02 PM) _________________________ Raúl Alejandro Molina Rosetti A.K.A.: Alemart_el_Redentor. Alemart_the_Redeemer. Alemart. Antaeus. FAA-117 FAAVPilot. pupae_pedorra. Major, Argentine Virtual Air Force.
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#3012528 - 05/15/10 09:38 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Alemart]
Colonel_Kurtz Member Registered: 01/29/07 Posts: 1142 Loc: Australia	My install is broken as well. Still trying to figure out why? _________________________ [IMG]http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8037/sig2ui1.jpg[/IMG]
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#3012538 - 05/15/10 10:10 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]
Alemart Member Registered: 06/09/07 Posts: 307 Loc: Zárate, Buenos Aires Province,...	Not entirely, i have solved most of the crashes, they were related to the GWUT file and differences between "old" and "new" GWUTs, so i started to mess around until i solved them by trial and error, i also learned some of the new differences on the GWUT files. The problem with the pilot info is still on and the only way to "solve" it was to delete my pilot.bin and then create a new one, but all my progress and achievements have been lost..... I am now in the process of integrate my modifications to the new GWUT file, and i must warn you that the problem with the OpenAL vs. DirectSound is on again, i think that a version that let you choose to use OpenAl OR Directsound needs to be developed. If you have any more questions just let me know! ^_^ _________________________ Raúl Alejandro Molina Rosetti A.K.A.: Alemart_el_Redentor. Alemart_the_Redeemer. Alemart. Antaeus. FAA-117 FAAVPilot. pupae_pedorra. Major, Argentine Virtual Air Force.
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#3013512 - 05/17/10 05:37 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Alemart]
Alemart Member Registered: 06/09/07 Posts: 307 Loc: Zárate, Buenos Aires Province,...	Well guys i would like to know YOUR experiences with this new patch is possible please, i think that would help to determine the proper way to handle with the problems that might surge... As for me, i have this conclusions: Pre 1.13 saved pilot info is NOT compatible with 1.13 Pre 1.13 GWUT files are NOT compatible unless you "upgrade" them Some custom scenarios, campaigns and skirmishes may need to be updated A FULL back-up is necessary before installing 1.13, i guess until a patch version is available The problem that i had with the sound (engines and ambient sounds not looping properly) is back, i guess because this new version is OpenAL only. Now for the GWUT, i discovered that the most important cause of incompatibility is of course the addition of the AH-1Z, that is not much of a problem as it is very easy to add it, other things includes small and not so small changes in some variables that apparently are redundant in the GWUT now, and of course the fact that some values are more accurate that in previous versions. Well i hope that somebody can find this useful :P, i would like to know your opinions and findings! ^_^ _________________________ Raúl Alejandro Molina Rosetti A.K.A.: Alemart_el_Redentor. Alemart_the_Redeemer. Alemart. Antaeus. FAA-117 FAAVPilot. pupae_pedorra. Major, Argentine Virtual Air Force.
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#3013659 - 05/18/10 01:06 AM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Alemart]
FireBird_[WINE] Member Registered: 06/10/05 Posts: 483	Originally Posted By: Alemart Pre 1.13 saved pilot info is NOT compatible with 1.13 1.13's, Pre-1.13's and pre-pre-1.13's pilots info is stored in the different files. If you have problems with 1.13's pilot info, I expect you had problems switching from pre-pre-1.13 to pre-1.13. Originally Posted By: Alemart Pre 1.13 GWUT files are NOT compatible unless you "upgrade" them I doubt it. Values of 1130 and 1120 are the same. Two things were changed in 1130 - Viper has been added and unused weapons indices have been replaced with spaces. Originally Posted By: Alemart Some custom scenarios, campaigns and skirmishes may need to be updated All of the custom maps were tested before the release. Please say what exactly "may need to be updated". Originally Posted By: Alemart A FULL back-up is necessary before installing 1.13, i guess until a patch version is available None of the previous updates made a backup of the installed version. The only file was saved in the backup directory is "cohokum.exe". "FULL back-up" is a normal and expected behaviour before any major change of any application. Originally Posted By: Alemart The problem that i had with the sound (engines and ambient sounds not looping properly) is back, i guess because this new version is OpenAL only. No doubts. You can create and share a DirectSound version without any problems. You can modify the installer to choose between versions and share it. Everything is in your hands. Originally Posted By: Alemart Now for the GWUT, i discovered that the most important cause of incompatibility is of course the addition of the AH-1Z, that is not much of a problem as it is very easy to add it, other things includes small and not so small changes in some variables that apparently are redundant in the GWUT now, and of course the fact that some values are more accurate that in previous versions. I doubt there are "incompability" changes in the GWUT file. Everything is backward compatible. Originally Posted By: Alemart Well i hope that somebody can find this useful :P, i would like to know your opinions and findings! ^_^ Really I don't understand the majority of the "problems" you posted here. I believe supplying of _much_ bigger amount of information may illuminate them.
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#3013988 - 05/18/10 12:09 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Alemart]
FightingFalcon4 Junior Member Registered: 05/17/10 Posts: 4 Loc: España	Cuando sacaránla versión 1.13.0??? gracias: Smile2: Edited by FightingFalcon4 (05/18/10 12:29 PM)
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#3014227 - 05/18/10 05:23 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: FightingFalcon4]
Essobie Strongly Opinionated Junior Member Registered: 05/11/10 Posts: 27	Originally Posted By: FightingFalcon4 Cuando sacaránla versión 1.13.0??? gracias: Smile2: It's in the thread titled AH1-Z VIPER of course! Where else would it be? For those keeping track, that thread title isn't all that helpful. Just sayin'.
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#3014281 - 05/18/10 07:30 PM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Essobie]
Essobie Strongly Opinionated Junior Member Registered: 05/11/10 Posts: 27	With the new canopy_sounds_amp tweaks that Colonel_Kurtz did up that Firebird apparently implemented in 1.13 I noticed an audible pop in the loop of the internal turbine audio loops. A lot of the helos in the game (all except for the Hind, apparently) use this same sound. However, I can still hear a pop in the Hind as well, so I am thinking it isn't a problem with the sound, but how the sound is looped in the engine. I don't really want to install back to 1.12.1 to see if it was due to the OpenAL. Is anyone else hearing this pop? The sound is about 6 seconds long or so.
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#3014430 - 05/19/10 05:44 AM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Essobie]
SimFan Member Registered: 05/04/01 Posts: 531 Loc: Europe	I had problems with the HARDWARE AL sound option, my onboard '97 soundchip not being up to this or so (this was in v 1.12.3, I still use software option). Did you also try 'software' in the Options-Sound in v 1.13 ? Edited by SimFan (05/19/10 05:45 AM)
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#3014545 - 05/19/10 08:53 AM Re: "Advanced" changes in 1.13? - HELP NEEDED [Re: Essobie]
FightingFalcon4 Junior Member Registered: 05/17/10 Posts: 4 Loc: España	es decir que ya la han sacado ¿no es así?
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