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#2995725 - 04/16/10 12:50 AM ThrustMaster Cougar MFD...  
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Found the TM Cougar MFD's in the US at a very cheap price...

https://www.antonline.com/p_Thrustmaster--2960708--New-Thrustmaster-USB-Cockpit-Panels-_789788.htm

Got to my home in 3 days. I like them, they are pretty sturdy, and definitely cool and useful. A good addition for any sim fan.

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#2995773 - 04/16/10 02:35 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: Skater]  
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Are both MFDs reliable? Do they have much in the way of programming options?

I'm itching to jump on this as soon as I get another US$60 (and my buying DCS: Black Shark earlier today for US$15 isn't helping things), but some of the reviews (including SimHQ's) do raise a few concerns.

#2995833 - 04/16/10 05:50 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: NamelessPFG]  
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I have wrote a review,I hope will be useful:

http://www.hotas.gr/content/view/75/1/1/0/lang,en/

You can not program buttons (for now) but I believe that the device is very useful.

#2995890 - 04/16/10 10:02 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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I bought a couple TM MFDs to use with FC2, Black Shark, Falcon 4. As above, I got them from Antonline -- via Amazon. I like Antonline prices and shipping in general and buy stuff from them via Amazon. The MFDs arrived last week and are sitting in front of me.

As mentioned above, they are sturdy. Nicely lit for use in a dark room.

They do not come with separate programming software. One has to use the in-game controller screen to program them -- which seems fine for FC2 and BS, so far.


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#2996407 - 04/17/10 12:13 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: Allen]  
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One thing to note about 'programming' in game. Your game MUST accept multiple joystick inputs, as that's how these babies show up.

I have them, I like them, I would like them even better though if I could program simple keystrokes on them. It has to be possible, as you can "program" them with some default M$ Flightsim functions.

#2997722 - 04/19/10 04:40 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: Vegas]  
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I have tested my MFDs with some flight sims to see if the sim's keyboard assignments could be assigned to an MFD button: IL2 Forgotten Battles AEP-Yes, Falcon 4.0-Yes, Wings of Prey-Yes, Microsoft CombatFS 3-No, Microsoft FSX-No (?). I need to double check the MFDs with FSX as I would think they should work together..the first time I tried FSX did not recognize the MFDs.

I use the MFDs along with a ZBoard Merc The Merc has a great gaming keyboard setup that allows for simple trim for all three trim axis. The "Fang" would be good. http://shop.steelseries.com/us/index.php/keyboards-us/steelseries-merc.html site.

Last edited by BuckeyeOne; 04/20/10 09:10 PM. Reason: erased a letter, was in wrong place

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#2997785 - 04/19/10 05:47 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: BuckeyeOne]  
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Just re-check MFDs at FSX (Demo version) and worked.

I noticed a 1-2 sec delay during first assignment,but after that was OK.

http://www.hotas.gr/fsx-mfd-1.jpg

you have to edit again!There is an "e" at the end of URL wink


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#2998523 - 04/20/10 09:14 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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Thanks..I dropped the "e". I will check FSX again..Iknow they show up as available devices but I push a button on an MFD and nada.. I will wait a little longer after I push a button. Thanks for the info.


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#2999056 - 04/21/10 07:01 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: BuckeyeOne]  
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Does ANTonline make international delivery? I can´t find a place to buy this MFD that does international delivery. Amazon doesn´t delivery hardware to Argentina. frown


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#2999089 - 04/21/10 08:01 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: Lancelot]  
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Simw delivers to Argentina.
But no cheap at all!

http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_shipping (MFD are shipping code B ,36 euro)

#2999399 - 04/22/10 11:43 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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Originally Posted By: 335th_GRSwaty
Simw delivers to Argentina.
But no cheap at all!

http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_shipping (MFD are shipping code B ,36 euro)


Thanks, i will keep it as last resource, because bring it from europe become way more expensive that from USA. frown


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#2999425 - 04/22/10 01:09 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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How are the "switches" on those things? Do they hold their position or are they just two way buttons?

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#2999641 - 04/22/10 06:54 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: XarBat]  
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There are two ways buttons.

IF you release it, returns to neutral position.

#3001659 - 04/26/10 09:02 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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335th_GRSwaty... Well, I tried the MFDs on FSX. Yes they are shown as available "controllers" along with Cougar. But, I am not able to achieve an asignment of an FSX key to an MFD button.. I am definitely missing something.


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#3001666 - 04/26/10 09:13 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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335th_GRSwaty. Well, I tried my MFDs with FSX again, several times in fact...no luck. The MFDs do show up as available "controllers" but I am unable to assign a FSX key to a MFD button. I am definitely missing something. Probably something really obvious that I can't see..bah.


Aim at perfection. Even if you miss 'tis better than aiming at imperfection and succeeding.
My Rig:
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RAM: 4gig Corsair DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz
Video: 4gig DDR3 Nvidia 9800 GX2 in Quad SLI.
Storage: 120gig, 500gig, 150gig
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#3001682 - 04/26/10 09:31 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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335th_GRSwaty. OK thanks! I have been able to make MFD assignments in FSX.


Aim at perfection. Even if you miss 'tis better than aiming at imperfection and succeeding.
My Rig:
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MB: XFX nForce 790I Ultra SLI
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RAM: 4gig Corsair DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz
Video: 4gig DDR3 Nvidia 9800 GX2 in Quad SLI.
Storage: 120gig, 500gig, 150gig
Monitor: HP 2710
Thrustmaster Warthog and MFDs, TrackIR 5
#3001715 - 04/26/10 10:44 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: BuckeyeOne]  
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Nice!

By the way,do you use any instrument extractor program?

#3001793 - 04/27/10 02:46 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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335th_GRSwaty: No. In fact, I have no idea what an instrument extractor is. I am a newbie in the flight sim arena. I am going to check the web on that.. sounds interesting.


Aim at perfection. Even if you miss 'tis better than aiming at imperfection and succeeding.
My Rig:
O/S: Windows 7
Chasis: ThermalTake Kandalf LCS (liquid cooled)
MB: XFX nForce 790I Ultra SLI
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.15GHz
Power: 1000W Cooler Master
RAM: 4gig Corsair DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz
Video: 4gig DDR3 Nvidia 9800 GX2 in Quad SLI.
Storage: 120gig, 500gig, 150gig
Monitor: HP 2710
Thrustmaster Warthog and MFDs, TrackIR 5
#3001925 - 04/27/10 11:55 AM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: BuckeyeOne]  
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My favorite simulator is IL-2 (90% of my sim-time) and I fly FS 2004,Lock On and Falcon from time to time.

There is an excellent program for Falcon named MFD Extractor (from lightning)

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=3376.0

And Lockon External Avionics 2.0 on development phase for FC2 (from =RvE=Yoda)

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=42942

Check the videos for each one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hMHy7PdO5c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yQ9zz5mnQk

I am sure there will be a similar software for FSX.

Last edited by 335th_GRSwaty; 04/27/10 11:56 AM.
#3002011 - 04/27/10 03:00 PM Re: ThrustMaster Cougar MFD... [Re: 335th_GRSwaty]  
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335th_GRSwaty: Speaking of IL2, Forgotten Battles implemented the MFDs in what I would consider a superior way. Not only is the specific button identified, e.g. "OSB06" but so is the specific MFD unit where, say "1" is the joystick, "2" is left MFD, and "3" is the right mfd. For example, you get a button id as "OSB06ID2" the ID 2 saying that it is the left MFD, in this case. So far, I cant tell which MFD was used when I look at FSX assignments. Labeling the MFD paper templates is fine, but looking at the FSX "controls" screens I can't tell if e.g. button "06" was the MFD1, MFD2, Or Thrustmaster joystick button. I know of at least one other sim that implemented the MFDs like in IL2 Forgotten Battles..but forgot which one it was that I saw.


Aim at perfection. Even if you miss 'tis better than aiming at imperfection and succeeding.
My Rig:
O/S: Windows 7
Chasis: ThermalTake Kandalf LCS (liquid cooled)
MB: XFX nForce 790I Ultra SLI
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.15GHz
Power: 1000W Cooler Master
RAM: 4gig Corsair DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz
Video: 4gig DDR3 Nvidia 9800 GX2 in Quad SLI.
Storage: 120gig, 500gig, 150gig
Monitor: HP 2710
Thrustmaster Warthog and MFDs, TrackIR 5
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