I would like to expand this thought a bit, my friend.

"Practice makes perfect" - What a misleading quote.
Continually practicing a 'crappy technique' will make you a Crap Master at best.

If you are going to practice, practice perfect.

Remember the saying that applies: "Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast."
A friend constantly reminds me "1 slow hit is better than 3 fast misses..."

+1

In trap, you can't take your eye off the clay pidgeon!
You focus on that, and you will naturally point your arm (shotgun) at the target.
This is where I find the fiber optic front sight to be a boon, as I will watch the clay, and when I see that the sight is positioned accordingly I shootski.

Surprisingly, that 10" is eaten up pretty fast. It is not a lot of room at all.

I barely have room behind the the red dot mounted now, for the rear MBUS, and then there is the front MBUS as well.

I will be mounting a tac lite on the left rail, and a green micro laser and a Magpul RSA on the right. There is a Tango Down vertical shorty mounted on the bottom rail. As short as this weapon is... That is about all of the available room.

Total length of this weapon will be about 22"-24" with the stock collapsed.

-Skater

CTR stock, MBUS Front, and Magpul's arrived yesterday. I installed the Magpul's on the MagLevel PMAG's, and the MBUS-F looks good on the top rail.

The rest of the Magpul stuff is backordered. Getting there, but it might take a while.

-Skater

A light on the verticle grip may save you some rail room. I can't speak for them since I've never used one.

Bill, I agree with you, but still stand by a lessor technique well honed will outdo a good technique that is not worked on. Technique may be a 15% part of the formula, but honing your skill is three times that.

Back when my Dad and I still went out shooting, we started trying instinctive shooting, meaning off the hip with a handgun. That is tough to do! We'd set a tin can about ten yards out in front and draw and fire on it. No aiming. From what I've read lately, the real cowboy street shoot outs didn't happen that way. They were close in and aimed. Oh well, still fun, and a fast way to shoot up ammo.

I don't know how much longer I can continue to read this thread though. My jealousy meter is pegging red already.

Thought about it OG... But this thing is small... I am a big guy, and thi thing is like damn small... The grip with the light would be too long and cumbersome. It would be almost half as long as the barrel.

Aesthetics and ergonomics play a part here as well.

-Skater

Well, waiting to see the finished upper.

10 inches seems like a lot of room to me, but I guess you would know.

I also like the Daniel Defense fixed rear sight. It does not flip down, but it hardly takes up any room at all. Very light to.

I need to get a tac light for mine, but I'd really like to stay away from rails if possible. I'd consider one of the 2 or 3 slot rails that mount in the handguard holes, I've tried a few different setups and like the light mounted below the barrel so I can bump the tailcap with my support hand to turn it on or off. The tape switches can be hard to manipulate with gloves on (I try EVERY weapon accessory with winter gloves before buying.)