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#2954562 - 02/07/10 07:10 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: silent-one]
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Registered: 01/02/01
Posts: 1922
Loc: Livonia, MI
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I'll try rx but when I was wiggling them they weren't registering. When I pressed the TOE pedal, it was registering...not when wiggling the rudders.
I'll also try waiting longer before taking off. Maybe I should just skip the tutorial and go to the training.
Does anyone else have that jumpiness with the TrackIR?
Manual should be here soon!
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#2954571 - 02/07/10 07:20 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: rockhpi]
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Registered: 01/14/03
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It not rx I just tried again. Its the default and doesnt work. delete it. then go to add axis button at the bottom. a new window opens theres a box saying select an axis ( or something like that ) its empty. now just wiggle your pedals left and right a few times. dont touch the brakes or it might select that by accident ( done that )
it will spot your pedals and the axis writes itself in in the empty axis box.
Now your good to go.
Have been trying to replicate your prob but cant here.
Track ir is often a bit jumpy until flight settles down after a few secons for me . but doesnt last more than a few seconds for me. how long does it continue for you?
INcidentlly do you get the same autohover problem when you go to instant combat. If you dont get that problem there then we have isolated it as being an issue at startup. If you get the problem in instant flight then it is something endemic. Would be v useful to know that to fault find. please get back regarding results if you can
remember you have a copy of the manual in your install folder already.
Edited by silent-one (02/07/10 07:21 PM)
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#2954620 - 02/07/10 09:11 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: silent-one]
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Registered: 07/22/06
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Loc: Florida, US
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I just watched the track and I am pretty sure I've nailed down some of the issues.
First, the text that appears in the training pop-up doesn't say to go to 50m and establish a hover, it says to take off and go to waypoint 1. Maybe I missed part of it, but I didn't see anything about establishing a hover.
Second, you were not in a stable hover when you turned on auto-hover. You were going backwards at least 10km/hr. You should really be under 6km/hr before you hit auto-hover. Personally, I get it to under 3km/hr before I turn on auto-hover.
Third, take note of your ground speed as indicated on the HUD. You have two indication for ground speed: One is displayed on your ABRIS (as "GS") and is your ground speed as determined by the ABRIS using satellites. The other is on your HUD and is generated by your Inertial Navigation System. If there is no number for airspeed in your HUD, then your INS does not know your ground speed. Without knowing your ground speed, there is no way it can keep your ground speed at zero (a hover, in other words).
Best advice will be to make sure that you've got a ground speed indication on your HUD (and that it's as small as possible, under 6km/hr is preferrable) before you engage auto-hover. You may need to fly forward a bit to get it to start working.
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#2954703 - 02/08/10 05:13 AM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: AlphaOneSix]
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Registered: 11/23/02
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Hmm. Personally, I tend to turn on auto-hover at any speeed under about 30Kph. Works fine for me ...
I was, however, wondering why the speed disappeared from my HUD from time to time, so thanks for clearing that one up :-)
Yeah, I know all this stuff is in the manual, but it's a 500 page manual - I've read a lot of it but I'd rather be flying.
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#2954959 - 02/08/10 02:44 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: Tango]
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Registered: 01/02/01
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Loc: Livonia, MI
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AlphaOneSix - The mission text doesn't say hover, but the tutorial does. It's stickied in this forum (How to take off and blow stuff up).
Silent One-I'll try wiggling again, but I did that, making sure I wasn't pressing the toe. I know in other sims I've had to do it several times to get it to pop up, but I did it several times here and it didn't take. The pedals work in Il-2, so they are functional.
I didn't time The trackIR, but if you watch the track I posted you can see what it was like. At one point you see the view point down, that's where I threw my hat on the floor, since the view was so jumpy I couldn't click the waypoint button-was trying to hit a moving target. The TrackIR works fine in IL-2. I dunno if there are settings I can adjust in Ka-50.
I have the .pdf but I can't have it open in my lap :P The hardcopy should be here in a day or two.
I will try making sure the HUD shows a speed and if that's not it, I'll try Instant Actin and see if the problem persists.
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#2955232 - 02/09/10 05:39 AM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: rockhpi]
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Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 489
Loc: Christchurch.quake central
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I just double checked what the ais is on yor ch pedals ( same as mine by the way. ) go to conrrols. at teh top it sould say ka50 real. Then in the next box select select axis commands.
Under rudder select JOY Z
Ive just double checked this. its the real deal.
delete whatever you have under rudder. then click on add button at teh bottom. you have new window. press nothing. wiggle your pedals back and forth. a few times.Might take as few wiggles. be patient. It'll spot them.
We need to see if this is a problem unique to this mission or something in the game. Can You use auto hover in other missions or quick mission?
Edited by silent-one (02/09/10 06:49 PM)
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#2955937 - 02/10/10 08:26 AM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: silent-one]
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Registered: 04/11/02
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are you using trim at all? if you touch the stick...hit trim. When you release the trim, are you letting the stick go back to center before hitting the auto hover?
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#2957990 - 02/13/10 05:55 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: ripper998]
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If you're using the "new" trim function (which is default). LOL, I always screw up using the auto-hover/autopilot stuff, which is why I just trim for a decent hover at takeoff and just actively fly the helicopter the rest of the time. http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_421a.html
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#2959610 - 02/16/10 07:52 PM
Re: ALT T is not auto-hover, it is auto-crash!/Rudder Pedals
[Re: Dart]
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Registered: 01/02/01
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Sorry guys...I am finally back to work a year after being laid off so I haven't been spending as much time on this as I'd like. Yes I was using trim. However, I want to try out the theory that it wasn't working because INS didn't know how fast I was going. I just haven't tried that out yet.
I haven't tried any other missions...are the training missions useful?
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