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#2949748 - 01/29/10 04:03 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... ***** [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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I'll look at the nose but I think it was a typo in my post. "High Life" had a very short life with the 351st. She pretty much was posted to the squadron and was lost in a day or two after the posting. The feel I got was a very lucky crew though, they did survive a water landing.

Finally, as ya'll may have noticed, the operational life of these airmen was very short. No wonder the "Mephis Belle" was as celebrated as she was being the very first 17 to survive 25 bombing missions over enemy territory.
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#2954602 - 02/07/10 08:37 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: iron mike]
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Back on line, one last 24-bit skin then the 8-bit version.







THe last vic in the box was the most dangerous...





EP-H (23386) "Marie Helena" 2nd LT Richard Gormley 22 August - 8 October, 1943
FTR MidAir FW190 Bremen 10 KIA

EP-B (23474) "King Bee" 30 August - 27 December, 1943
Landing Accident salvaged 31 January, 1944
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#2954635 - 02/07/10 10:09 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: iron mike]
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Mike,
Wonderful job on the skins. I am 100% honest about my admeration (spelling) to your skinning work.

I have a question for the community though. (you just knew That Prick Al wouldn't post only a positive comment)

We have had B17s flying into the Oakland/Pontiac airport for the open house for several years now. What has always supprised me is how small these aircraft are in real life. I assume the 3dz is the correct size so I ask my question. Does the crew size make the aircraft seem too large in screen shots like (edit)IM?

I am only asking for an opinion because I have stood under and arround these aircraft and I am even now suprised how small this 4 engine bombers seem to me.


Edited by Brit44 'Aldo' (02/07/10 10:12 PM)
Edit Reason: IM is not MY.. old habets
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#2954957 - 02/08/10 02:35 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']
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I'm not too sure about accurate scale size. These models are refined from the original models in EAW without any scale changes. I will have to assume that the various models are the correct base shape but perhaps not the correct measurements.

p.s. it is amazing just how small the compartments are inside a B17. Granted the aircrewmen were not 6 plus feet on average but closer to the 5'8" of a friends father who was a navigator.
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#2955009 - 02/08/10 04:22 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: iron mike]
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Hi Allen.

When I did the WW1 bomber HP 400/1, it was as big as a B17, and yes that's not big by today's standard. EAW's B17 is about right in size, to the real thing, but scale in EAW is all wrong. The planes are scaled down, by the exe. Just about every other sim uses a constant scale for everything, which is something I'd like to see changed on day here too.
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#2957173 - 02/12/10 08:29 AM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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The 100th BG '43-44' will be finished and submitted to Talley-Ho by this coming Monday. That will leave a 'pure G unit' for '44-45' to be done.
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#2958544 - 02/14/10 07:15 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: iron mike]
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The B17 multi-skin unit has been sent to Talley-Ho. Thanks to all for their patience.
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#2958583 - 02/14/10 11:05 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: iron mike]
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#2964500 - 02/21/10 03:26 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you... [Re: Knegel]
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The squadron is at my page at Talley-Ho now.
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#2964504 - 02/21/10 03:43 PM Re: Coming to the sky near you...the 100th Bomb Group (Heavy) [Re: iron mike]
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Great job Mike.

I love the B17's!!!! thumbsup
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