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#2954714 - 02/08/10 06:00 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Copterdrvr]
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Originally Posted By: Copterdrvr
Hey Rivet, thanks for your response. I should have remembered that-oldtimers disease is a pain in the @ss!


Oldtimer's disease, old_simmer clapping You're not the only one m8, I have my moments too biggrin (edit: Just realized, I might have put my foot in it there. If you are genuinely ill then I apologise) Didn't mean to offend.

Yeah, strange about the choppiness in fullscreen. I don't know the reason either. I haven't quite got film quality smoothness, but it's pretty good.

After my little test all I know is 10 extra frames according to fraps = smoother gameplay. I think I'll leave it in "Windowed" mode. biggrin

I don't know about CrossFire, but from what you say, I'd hazard a guess at "no".


Edited by Rivet (02/08/10 06:05 AM)

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#2954756 - 02/08/10 07:18 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Rivet]
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No apologies nec. I'm fine it's just my hard drive is getting full-if you know what I mean, and doing a reformat doesn't sound like the way to go!!! thumbsup Had a young pilot in for an aircraft transition and was giving him some general hints and tricks for doing an autorotation. He looked at me and said "yeah, I remember that info when I was here for recurrent training for my primary aircraft 3 months ago". I pretended I didn't hear him and kept on talking!!! In defense, my company has around 600 pilots that I have the pontential of dealing with and all of the young ones look the same to me----young! beercheers

I have to agree completely-10 fps can have a huge impact on gameplay, especially when your fps are hovering around the "sweet spot".

I'd like to hear from some ROF/Crossfire "sperts" as to whether ROF is programmed to take advantage of it, etc.
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#2954788 - 02/08/10 08:41 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Copterdrvr]
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Originally Posted By: Copterdrvr
No apologies nec. I'm fine thumbsup


Ok, that's good.

And Btw, "It/they all look the same to me" is the best excuse known to man, and when partnered with the well mastered art of "selective deafness" the user becomes almost invincible hahaha beercheers

Yeah it would be interesting to find out about the crossfire thing one way or another.

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#2954820 - 02/08/10 09:30 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Rivet]
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My wife (who I met when she was a flight nurse and I was an EMS pilot) constantly accuses me of having "selective hearing" and I always remind her that the only difference between a flight nurse and a turbine engine is that when you shut down the engine it quits whining! Only kidding actually-I married way over my pay grade-AND she never gives me grief for "playing" on the computer! yeah
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#2955291 - 02/09/10 07:09 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Copterdrvr]
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Hehe, yeah the old jokes are the best Smile2

Originally Posted By: Copterdrvr
I married way over my pay grade-AND she never gives me grief for "playing" on the computer! yeah


Small world. I married "over my pay grade" too and like you, I don't get grief from my wife for playing PC games either (well, very little). We must be very lucky people. biggrin

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#2955403 - 02/09/10 10:20 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Rivet]
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You bet--very lucky indeed!!!

Still would like to hear from some ROF experts regarding the Crossfire question. Any clues?
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#2955427 - 02/09/10 10:55 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Copterdrvr]
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I took a look on the official ROF site and it looks like the general concensus is that there is little or no benefit from sli/crossfire.

I found this post from taleks2:

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JayDolan wrote:
I get what you're saying, taleks (I really do), but the fact is that many other games work quite well with SLI, and ROF does not at all. At the very least, NeoQB should produce recommendations for SLI profiles / settings that provide the best SLI performance. Currently, SLI users are completely ignored -- just like 64 bit users. It's pretty frustrating.


Actually, it's difficult to write exact profile hints, cause there are changes in drivers between versions, which make hints useless.

Anyway, SLI/CrossFire performance is one of questions in development now.
Probably, that will result in game graphics engine core, if any suspicous will be found in it.


That post was on December 19th. Maybe someone has more info, but that's about all I could find. You can see the whole thread here

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#2955444 - 02/09/10 11:54 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Rivet]
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Rivet you could ask Han at neoqb if it's possible for you to help his graphics programmers to work out how to implement SLI/Crossfire friendliness. They probably do not have an SLI rig, it's only a matter of switching frame buffers in and out. Only Smile2

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#2955490 - 02/09/10 01:19 PM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Ming_EAF19]
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If that's the case, I'm amazed that I can run ROF with everything in the sim maxed and 4XAA and 4XAF at 1920 X 1080. There isn't the slightest hint of even a micropause, UNLESS I go to the external view and it's raining cats and dogs. Only then I can see just the very, very slightest hesitation when I pan around aircraft. The two cards set up in Crossfire are ATI 4870's which have been around for a while now and they're way behind the current power curve---unless hooked up in Crossfire-which apparently doesn't work in ROF!!! Go figure.

Oh, and thanks for your "research" Rivet, much appreciated. Get up with Han (?) and straighten this out!!! cheers
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#2956436 - 02/11/10 07:34 AM Re: "Landscape" in setup option equals jerky gameplay--why? [Re: Copterdrvr]
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Originally Posted By: Copterdrvr


Oh yeah, does anyone remember if they said that ROF is set up to benefit from CrossFire? I enabled the function that is supposed to show the Crossfire emblem in the upper right corner of the screen when it's being used and it doesn't show up in ROF. It does in my other games.


Hi Copterdrvr,

I have 2 4870's in Crossfire and ROF does use it. If you check in CCC you'll see that there are some extra choices (higher) available under the different Anti-aliasing filters. I only get these when I have Crossfire enabled. If I use use these higher AA settings then I get the Crossfire emblem up on screen. Not sure if Crossfire is giving me a frame rate boost but it looks pretty fancy using these extra modes. Might be a performance hit though depending on your system.

Cheers. SP

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