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#2953666 - 02/06/10 12:58 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: RAF_Roy]
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Hi John, such or similar clouds i would like to see in the background, while always the closest cloud shal be a cloud with many layers.

How did you display this clouds?? Did you use the default 3dz and loaded a 2d picture with it??


Greetings,

Knegel
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#2953674 - 02/06/10 02:00 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: RAF_Roy]
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Hi Ralf.

These clouds are just simple 2D flat elements, dropped into an aircraft slot, in this case Spit 2.

Now, the trick would be, to get this type of cloud into the sky box, independently of the aircraft.

We would need several types of these clouds, so they do not look too repetitive.

Time to put on the thinking head. smile
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#2953867 - 02/06/10 11:00 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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Hi Guys,

Just getting back from a 'forced sabatic' and I'm very late in responding to this post.
So, I'm apologizing, ahead of time, before this post ruffles anyone's feathers....

This is a terrific find and an exciting enhancement to the EAW environment....

Althought, I have noticed, over the years, that 'columns of smoke' were 3D
I hadn't thought that this could mean that EAW clouds could be too.
Trust Knegel, to show us the way to the promise land, once again....Great work Ralf.

Those screenshots are very exciting to see....

A few inquries....
1) As with all addons for EAW, could these 3D Cloud Mods be made available
to the community as a separate addon? The reason I ask is, they could be added
to existing/past Campaign Games (ie: ETO, DAW, SPAW, FAW, etc.)

2) Could these new clouds be associated/connected with the Campaign Game's engine that presently changes the Cloudscape
(ie; 'Clear', 'Partly Cloudy', 'Heavy Clouds' and 'Overcast') during ramdom mission setups.....
Will these 3D Cloud's appearance reflect those of the in game categories,
as the present 2D Clouds do now?

3) Would these new 3D Clouds replace the 2D Clouds in the EAW enviroment
or can both 3D and 2D Clouds be displayed in the same mission, at the same time?

4) Could it be possible that these new 3D Clouds could appear
randomly throughtout the EAW environment as the mission flight path unfolds?
Sort of like random 'pockets' of 3D clouds.

5) Would it be possible for this addon to be modified by community members
and these alternate clouds mods be made available (ie; posted on Sandbagger)
for others to download into their Campaign Game, without it beginning
connected to a specific EAWexe?

If these thoughts have already been addressed.....apologies!
Please direct me to that specific post for their answers....thanks

Cheers mates pilot
David
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#2953890 - 02/06/10 11:41 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Skylark]
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Hi David,

at 1st we need a cloud type that is realy worth it.

What means that it looks good, from a distance and when you fly through it and which can appear many times without to kill the fps.


To place this clouds is then not that difficult.

But for now all this is just a test, which for now will be awailabe only as test version with the next exe.

Greetings,

Knegel
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The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!

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#2954014 - 02/06/10 04:13 PM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Knegel]
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More tests, in the clouds.3dz slot.

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#2954343 - 02/07/10 10:19 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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WOOW! John, That's a truly inspiring image....
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#2954346 - 02/07/10 10:22 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Skylark]
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Hi Knegel,

If I'm not mistaken....this 3D Clouds development
will create yet another High Watermark for EAW.
It will be the next monumental acheivements to be added to a long list of achievements
created by the likes of;
Charles 'Charles' Gunst release of 'Enemy Coast Ahead' Control Panel...
Dirk 'Emil' Schoorens' who released his DAW and Malta Campaigns...
Jeff 'Salty' Salter and John 'Chompy' Masters' release of the first HiRes Modded Skins...
Nathan 'Col.Landers' Howland's negotiations with the owners of EAW...
Tony 'MrJelly' West's OAWSelector and other EAW Editing Programs...
The Code Groups' release of 1.28exe...
and all the other Modders, Coders and Skinners that have kept this 'Old Gal' alive...

Not only does she live but she continues to grow far beyond, I'm sure, her original creator's expectation
because of the efforts of so many enthusiasts, both past and present.

Thank you Ralf pilot
David

PS: This was my short list, as best as these old gray cells can remember.
If I left someone out, my apologies, it was not intentional.....


Edited by Skylark (02/07/10 10:54 AM)
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#2954375 - 02/07/10 11:58 AM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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That...is freakin AWESOME!!!
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#2954456 - 02/07/10 02:51 PM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Shreck]
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Hey guys, this is nothing more than a early test, so get up from your knees(dont know about John, but i dont need a blowjob right now biggrin ).

The real usable 3d clouds most probably will look more like what Roel did or what i did.

The 2d pictures, like in Col.Gibbons picture at best we can use as more variable horizon clouds. Currently i cant see a possibility to get similar good close distance 3d clouds going.

To fly throuh a 2d clould would be a little immersion killer. wink
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1st engined flight by Richard Pearse, Waitohi, New Zealand, March 31, 1902. Karl Jatho, 1st flight, 18.August 1903, Hannover-Vahrenheide, real controlled flights.
The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!

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#2954476 - 02/07/10 03:34 PM Re: 3D clouds always was possible in EAW. [Re: Knegel]
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As an enhancement for the distance fog, I think they look good, but up close we need to think again.

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Ah that's much better!

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At home, with my great kids, Thomas, Jessica & little Nicola. smile

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