#2909438 - 11/28/09 12:53 PM
i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920
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I was going to buy i7 860 or i7 920 but after reading the below articles and them saying i5 750 is easily the best-bang-for-buck CPU I took their advice and bought the same hardware they used in their OC article on i5 750 and saved myself some money and now have a 4.0ghz beast with 5870 video card. Read the articles and then decide for yourself before investing in i7 920 or even i7 860. I also bought LE version of Asus P7P55D mb so saved even more. http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=857&p=1http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=863Here are my costs for this little upgrade. Asus P7P55D LE $149.99 CAD i5 750 CPU $200.00 CAD G. Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1600 Ripjaw $128.99 CAD (you can buy cheaper ram than that but I wanted to try this stuff out as I heard really good things about it) Noctua NH-U12P SE2 HSF $79.99 CAD That's all I needed to upgrade form E6850 C2D CPU and achieve 4.0 GHZ OC. They achieved 4.2GHZ but I got BSOD upon entering Win7 at that speed and the dif between 4.0ghz and 4.2ghz is very little anyway so am quite happy with what I was able to get. BTW, I can easily afford i7 920 but why waste money for little gain?
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2909450 - 11/28/09 01:30 PM
Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920
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Very worthwhile post. Good rationale. I'm an AMD fan, but you make me want to try it just for fun -- but I think I spent enough money on black friday Can't argue against the i5 for overclocking if those fantastic overclocks are stable (when tested with Prime95 for 8 to 24 hours, for example).
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#2909510 - 11/28/09 03:42 PM
Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920
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I've tested with both Prime95 and Furmark and it is stable but not for as long as you said. I read that prime95 will crash the PC within minutes if the OC is no good but if you want to test for long term stability then run it overnight. I may do that one day but I am fairly certain I am good to go for gaming purposes. I just put in a Seasonic S12 850w PSU today too even though my S12 600W had no issues. Just did because I could and now I have a rock solid 600w PSU as a backup.
I was an AMD fan and still am for the video cards but their CPUs just can't compete with Intel's anymore. I do have a single core AMD64 PC with XP on it too though so still use AMD CPU on occasion.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2909569 - 11/28/09 04:54 PM
Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920
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Sounds like a nice system.
As for stress testing with Prime95 on my rig if fails on at least one core within about 5 minutes and temps go through the roof. But its been 100% stable under normal gaming use, mainly FSX and GTA4 ATM, and I can run 3Dmark non stop and temps stay well within acceptable limits.
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#2909771 - 11/29/09 01:37 AM
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How is the i7 920 expensive? I don't think it's expensive. I think it's cheap, Ziprick. Get it.
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#2910411 - 11/30/09 12:37 PM
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It takes a very good mobo to achieve that. Yes, and P7P55D has the i5/i7 OC crown according to Legion Hardware and is why I bought that specific mb. Basically I bought exactly the hardware they used and used the exact same bios settings as them. Their article on i5 750 OC made it very easy for me.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2910413 - 11/30/09 12:41 PM
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How is the i7 920 expensive? I don't think it's expensive. I think it's cheap, Ziprick. Get it. Why would I get it when I just bought i5 750 and have it running faster than most people's i7 920? OK, it's not too expensive but it is not best-bang-for-buck either. I like best-bang-for-buck CPUs because that allows me to waste more money on GPU and GPU is more important to game performance than CPU.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2910424 - 11/30/09 01:07 PM
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Yea, if you don't want to attempt OC then I would go i7 860 too. Actually, I was going to buy i7 860 and OC it too until I read the article at Legion Hardware about i5 750 OC. Difference in price between i5 750 and i7 860 is only about $100.00 CAD but I looked at it as making my 5870 cost $100.00 less and not the CPU and getting pretty much the same performance.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2910506 - 11/30/09 03:55 PM
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...It seems they killed their special baby by offering an almost as good and quite cheaper alternative. I think Intel did that with a Centrino version a few years back. AMD has the 3.1GHz 550 Black dual core (a quad with two cores "locked out"). Some reported they can unlock the extra two cores, overclock to above 3.4GHz and get the near equivalent of an OC 965 for half price. So, it seems there is a pattern here for people to take advantage I myself am going to try the 550 unlock trick on my in-process HTPC. I have no expectations. But, it will be neat if it works. If it doesn't, the base 550 is fine for the HTPC application -- and I'll have learned something.
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#2910804 - 12/01/09 12:43 AM
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From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future.
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#2910828 - 12/01/09 01:24 AM
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From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future. Actually both the new Lynnfield i7 and i5 use the 1156 socket with the new P55 platform. Bloomfield i7 and X58 were Intel's tour de force introduction of the Core i series. The new platform is intended more for mainstream users.
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#2911046 - 12/01/09 12:53 PM
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I have a i5-750. Really happy with it. As far as mutlithreading goes that is a complete non-issue with current games and even with video editing etc, unless you are doing that for hours a day that isn't a big problem. You still have four very fast cores and ability to overclock to 4 GHz.
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#2911397 - 12/01/09 10:50 PM
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From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future. i7 860/870 uses the same socket as i5 so I am not locked into i5 at all. Doesn't matter either way as I usually buy new mb too when I do CPU upgrade because you usually need to upgrade to a new architecture of CPU to get a real benefit. Clock for Clock i5/i7 does quite a bit more then C2D and that's what I expect with whatever next Intel or AMD has up their sleeves.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2911399 - 12/01/09 10:51 PM
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Ziprick,
I choose almost the same upgrade for the exact reason (best-bang-for-buck). I was going to stay with AMD but Intel actually beat AMD in the pricing game this time around.
BTW, Noctua NH-U12P SE2 HSF you can have for a little cheaper ($67) if you price match. Just search shopbot, pricecanada, or pricebat. OK, next time I will do that but it was the same price at both newegg.ca and ncix.com and those are the only two online companies for Canada I really trust and know are reliable. If you know of other reliable online stores for hardware that are just as good then please post them.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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#2911409 - 12/01/09 10:58 PM
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No multi-threading might hurt the i5-750's performance down the road, especially with the dx11 games. Maybe but Legion Hardware came to the conclusion that for gamers it is a non issue when they did their OC article on i5 750. I can always change my CPU to i7 later if what you say proves to be true because i5 and i7 use the same socket. It is the i7 90 that uses a different socket and is probably a dead end road.
The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.
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