Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#2909438 - 11/28/09 12:53 PM i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
I was going to buy i7 860 or i7 920 but after reading the below articles and them saying i5 750 is easily the best-bang-for-buck CPU I took their advice and bought the same hardware they used in their OC article on i5 750 and saved myself some money and now have a 4.0ghz beast with 5870 video card. Read the articles and then decide for yourself before investing in i7 920 or even i7 860. I also bought LE version of Asus P7P55D mb so saved even more.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=857&p=1

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=863

Here are my costs for this little upgrade.

Asus P7P55D LE $149.99 CAD
i5 750 CPU $200.00 CAD
G. Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1600 Ripjaw $128.99 CAD (you can buy cheaper ram than that but I wanted to try this stuff out as I heard really good things about it)
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 HSF $79.99 CAD

That's all I needed to upgrade form E6850 C2D CPU and achieve 4.0 GHZ OC. They achieved 4.2GHZ but I got BSOD upon entering Win7 at that speed and the dif between 4.0ghz and 4.2ghz is very little anyway so am quite happy with what I was able to get.

BTW, I can easily afford i7 920 but why waste money for little gain?


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#2909450 - 11/28/09 01:30 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Ziprick]  
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 8,839
Allen Offline
Hotshot
Allen  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 8,839
Ohio USA
Very worthwhile post. Good rationale. I'm an AMD fan, but you make me want to try it just for fun -- but I think I spent enough money on black friday smile

Can't argue against the i5 for overclocking if those fantastic overclocks are stable (when tested with Prime95 for 8 to 24 hours, for example).


Sapphire Pulse RX7900XTX, 3 monitors = 23P (1080p) + SAMSUNG 32" Odyssey Neo G7 1000R curve (4K/2160p) + 23P (1080p), AMD R9-7950X (ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420), 64GB RAM@6.0GHz, Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER MB, (4x M.2 SSD + 2xSSD + 2xHD) = ~52TB storage, EVGA 1600W PSU, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower, ASUS RT-AX89X 6000Mbps WiFi router, VKB Gladiator WW2 Stick, Pedals, G.Skill RGB KB, AORUS Thunder M7 Mouse, W11 Pro
#2909510 - 11/28/09 03:42 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Allen]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
I've tested with both Prime95 and Furmark and it is stable but not for as long as you said. I read that prime95 will crash the PC within minutes if the OC is no good but if you want to test for long term stability then run it overnight. I may do that one day but I am fairly certain I am good to go for gaming purposes. I just put in a Seasonic S12 850w PSU today too even though my S12 600W had no issues. Just did because I could and now I have a rock solid 600w PSU as a backup.

I was an AMD fan and still am for the video cards but their CPUs just can't compete with Intel's anymore. I do have a single core AMD64 PC with XP on it too though so still use AMD CPU on occasion.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2909569 - 11/28/09 04:54 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Ziprick]  
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,296
Mark Aisthorpe Offline
Crazy Courier
Mark Aisthorpe  Offline
Crazy Courier
Senior Member

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,296
London UK
Sounds like a nice system.

As for stress testing with Prime95 on my rig if fails on at least one core within about 5 minutes and temps go through the roof. But its been 100% stable under normal gaming use, mainly FSX and GTA4 ATM, and I can run 3Dmark non stop and temps stay well within acceptable limits.


Asus Maximus XI Hero
i9-9900K
32Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR4 3200MHz
MSI RTX 2080Ti Ventus
Corsair H115i
Corsair RM850X PSU
Phanteks Evolv X
Asus VG32G Monitor 2560x1440
Win 10
#2909610 - 11/28/09 06:46 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,636
speedbump Offline
Hotshot
speedbump  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,636
Edgewood TX
Prime95 is a good program to see if your computer can run your overclock. My CPU can run at 4.2Ghz all day, but about 2 minutes of Prime95 locks it up. So I have it at 3.8 which will run Prime95 indefinitely. The key to higher overclocks if generally how much voltage you are willing to pump into your CPU and the heat that gets created by doing so.

A quad like a Q9650 running at 4Ghz is really very good. It takes a very good mobo to achieve that.

#2909771 - 11/29/09 01:37 AM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: speedbump]  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,814
Plainsman Offline
Senior Member
Plainsman  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,814
Vikings Season Ticket Holder
How is the i7 920 expensive? I don't think it's expensive. I think it's cheap, Ziprick. Get it.


Acer: XB 280HK 28" 3840 X 2160, 1ms, w/Nvidia GSync
Corsair: White Graphite 760T Full Tower
Corsair: 16GB Vengeance LPX 2800MHz RAM
Corsair: SP2500 2.1 Gaming Speaker System
INTEL: Six-Core, i7 5820K CPU @4.2Hz
ASUS RTX OC 2080
Logitech 920 Wheel and Pedal System with Wheel Stand Pro
Saitek Pro Flight Control System with Wheel Stand Pro
Saitek X55 HOTAS
XBOX One S
Track IR5

#2910411 - 11/30/09 12:37 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: speedbump]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Originally Posted By: speedbump
It takes a very good mobo to achieve that.


Yes, and P7P55D has the i5/i7 OC crown according to Legion Hardware and is why I bought that specific mb. Basically I bought exactly the hardware they used and used the exact same bios settings as them. Their article on i5 750 OC made it very easy for me.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2910413 - 11/30/09 12:41 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Plainsman]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Originally Posted By: Plainsman
How is the i7 920 expensive? I don't think it's expensive. I think it's cheap, Ziprick. Get it.


Why would I get it when I just bought i5 750 and have it running faster than most people's i7 920? OK, it's not too expensive but it is not best-bang-for-buck either. I like best-bang-for-buck CPUs because that allows me to waste more money on GPU and GPU is more important to game performance than CPU.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2910416 - 11/30/09 12:47 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Ziprick]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,138
RSColonel_131st Offline
Lifer
RSColonel_131st  Offline
Lifer

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,138
Vienna, 2nd rock left.
For someone who has no desire to OC, the i7-860 is definitely better performance/value than the i5 and better performance/value than the i7-920.

If you only do gaming (as it seems from your postings) then an OCed CPU is certainly a good way to save some money, but if you must have a reliable system to get work done and can't afford outtages, I'd be more than hesitant to try such large OCs.

#2910424 - 11/30/09 01:07 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Yea, if you don't want to attempt OC then I would go i7 860 too. Actually, I was going to buy i7 860 and OC it too until I read the article at Legion Hardware about i5 750 OC. Difference in price between i5 750 and i7 860 is only about $100.00 CAD but I looked at it as making my 5870 cost $100.00 less and not the CPU and getting pretty much the same performance.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2910432 - 11/30/09 01:32 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Ziprick]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,138
RSColonel_131st Offline
Lifer
RSColonel_131st  Offline
Lifer

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,138
Vienna, 2nd rock left.
Agreed. I'm actually not sure where Intel is hoping to stay with the 9-Series i7s. It seems they killed their special baby by offering an almost as good and quite cheaper alternative.

#2910506 - 11/30/09 03:55 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 8,839
Allen Offline
Hotshot
Allen  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 8,839
Ohio USA
Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
...It seems they killed their special baby by offering an almost as good and quite cheaper alternative.


I think Intel did that with a Centrino version a few years back.

AMD has the 3.1GHz 550 Black dual core (a quad with two cores "locked out"). Some reported they can unlock the extra two cores, overclock to above 3.4GHz and get the near equivalent of an OC 965 for half price.

So, it seems there is a pattern here for people to take advantage smile

I myself am going to try the 550 unlock trick on my in-process HTPC. I have no expectations. But, it will be neat if it works. If it doesn't, the base 550 is fine for the HTPC application -- and I'll have learned something.


Sapphire Pulse RX7900XTX, 3 monitors = 23P (1080p) + SAMSUNG 32" Odyssey Neo G7 1000R curve (4K/2160p) + 23P (1080p), AMD R9-7950X (ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420), 64GB RAM@6.0GHz, Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER MB, (4x M.2 SSD + 2xSSD + 2xHD) = ~52TB storage, EVGA 1600W PSU, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower, ASUS RT-AX89X 6000Mbps WiFi router, VKB Gladiator WW2 Stick, Pedals, G.Skill RGB KB, AORUS Thunder M7 Mouse, W11 Pro
#2910804 - 12/01/09 12:43 AM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Allen]  
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 288
flyboy77 Offline
Member
flyboy77  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 288
Fort Worth,Texas
From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future.


NXZT Phantom case,core i7-975 oc 4.2,6gbcrucal ballistics ram at 1900 mhz,radeon HD5850 windows 7




#2910828 - 12/01/09 01:24 AM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: flyboy77]  
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 693
Pugio Offline
Member
Pugio  Offline
Member

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 693
Deep in the Leng Plateau
Originally Posted By: flyboy77
From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future.


Actually both the new Lynnfield i7 and i5 use the 1156 socket with the new P55 platform.

Bloomfield i7 and X58 were Intel's tour de force introduction of the Core i series. The new platform is intended more for mainstream users.

#2910989 - 12/01/09 09:35 AM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Pugio]  
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon Offline
Member
Remon  Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
No multi-threading might hurt the i5-750's performance down the road, especially with the dx11 games.

#2911046 - 12/01/09 12:53 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Remon]  
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 55
Thommo Offline
Junior Member
Thommo  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 55
Australia
I have a i5-750. Really happy with it. As far as mutlithreading goes that is a complete non-issue with current games and even with video editing etc, unless you are doing that for hours a day that isn't a big problem. You still have four very fast cores and ability to overclock to 4 GHz.

I5-750
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Gigabyte 4890 OC
4GB 1333 RAM
2 X 500GB SATA2 RAID0

Last edited by Thommo; 12/01/09 12:55 PM.
#2911247 - 12/01/09 07:29 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Thommo]  
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,260
mucat Offline
Member
mucat  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,260
Calgary, AB, Canada
Ziprick,

I choose almost the same upgrade for the exact reason (best-bang-for-buck). I was going to stay with AMD but Intel actually beat AMD in the pricing game this time around.

BTW, Noctua NH-U12P SE2 HSF you can have for a little cheaper ($67) if you price match. Just search shopbot, pricecanada, or pricebat.

#2911397 - 12/01/09 10:50 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: flyboy77]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Originally Posted By: flyboy77
From what I have heard,the i5 is limited with the 1156 socket.I have not heard of any prossessors that will use that socket in the future.


i7 860/870 uses the same socket as i5 so I am not locked into i5 at all. Doesn't matter either way as I usually buy new mb too when I do CPU upgrade because you usually need to upgrade to a new architecture of CPU to get a real benefit. Clock for Clock i5/i7 does quite a bit more then C2D and that's what I expect with whatever next Intel or AMD has up their sleeves.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2911399 - 12/01/09 10:51 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: mucat]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Originally Posted By: mucat
Ziprick,

I choose almost the same upgrade for the exact reason (best-bang-for-buck). I was going to stay with AMD but Intel actually beat AMD in the pricing game this time around.

BTW, Noctua NH-U12P SE2 HSF you can have for a little cheaper ($67) if you price match. Just search shopbot, pricecanada, or pricebat.


OK, next time I will do that but it was the same price at both newegg.ca and ncix.com and those are the only two online companies for Canada I really trust and know are reliable. If you know of other reliable online stores for hardware that are just as good then please post them.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
#2911409 - 12/01/09 10:58 PM Re: i5 750 is best bang for buck and you don't need the expensive i7 920 [Re: Remon]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
Ziprick Offline
Member
Ziprick  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 241
North of 49
Originally Posted By: Remon
No multi-threading might hurt the i5-750's performance down the road, especially with the dx11 games.


Maybe but Legion Hardware came to the conclusion that for gamers it is a non issue when they did their OC article on i5 750. I can always change my CPU to i7 later if what you say proves to be true because i5 and i7 use the same socket. It is the i7 90 that uses a different socket and is probably a dead end road.


The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change.

BILL CLINTON
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Carnival Cruise Ship Fire....... Again
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:58 PM
Baltimore Bridge Collapse
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:51 PM
The Oldest WWII Veterans
by F4UDash4. 03/24/24 09:21 PM
They got fired after this.
by Wigean. 03/20/24 08:19 PM
Grown ups joke time
by NoFlyBoy. 03/18/24 10:34 PM
Anyone Heard from Nimits?
by F4UDash4. 03/18/24 10:01 PM
RIP Gemini/Apollo astronaut Tom Stafford
by semmern. 03/18/24 02:14 PM
10 years after 3/8/2014
by NoFlyBoy. 03/17/24 10:25 AM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0