So besides me and HarryM, who else has seen "The Plan"?

"Razor" is better... light years better. But only because "The Plan" sucks.

What didn't you like about it? I'm curious to know from a fellow fan.

It over explained things that didn't need to be explained. Seeing some of the events that were so beautiful as mysteries, played out as really generic attempts at making a seemingly quickly hatched together plan work... just stripped away all the dark coolness of the series.

It also made the cylons seem foolish. I was hoping to see the genesis of the original cylons who then left Earth etc and to then see how that played out. Instead, it was this weirdly paced episode about John's fantasy to bang his mom.

I felt the only character that worked in "The Plan" was Sam. His story was believable and likable and the actor seemed to be giving his all. I just didn't feel that with the other characters. For me, it was the worst case scenario. I recommend anyone who loved BSG skip "The Plan" in case it ruins the whole experience for you just seeing it. There is nothing in there that you HAVE TO see.

I completely agree with you about Sam but I dont think the cylons were portrayed as being foolish. For me I saw it more as a major miscalcuation by Cavil assuming that the other cylons would all act like robots and not have any kind of free will of their own. Cavil never thought that the cylons would end up acting so much like his ultimate enemy: humans.

Your third point about the movie explaining things that didn't need to be explained is a tricky one. I did feel that explaining how Shelley Godfrey disappearing from the Galactica was not necessary but I did think it was quite important getting to see Cavil on the basestar surrounded by the Final 5 in their boxed tanks. I just think that added a nice touch to all the stuff he talked about in that 4.5 season episode when Ellen returned.

Could not disagree with you more about it adding a nice touch. I think we are lucky the show ended at 4 seasons because it looks like the writers were losing focus on what made the show great.

However, it looks like they got that creative energy working again for CAPRICA so... I am excited to see that.

I was really impressed with the pilot episode and am also looking forward to Caprica in January. I just hope that there is an audience out there for more of an intellectual and dialogue heavy type of sci-fi show.

I cant read this whole thread b/c of spoilers ...but Arrgh!! I can bring myself to finish the last season... I'm up to episode 5 and I cant stand it!!! Arrgh!!!

How are you liking season 4 so far?

"Caprica" was really a nice surprise in terms of it's quality. Story was good and production values also excellent.