Even in screenshots this sim gives a better sensation of altitude than any other I have seen.

Only buy this sim if you want to never fly your old sims again. They will feel like arcade games. That's what happened to me, and I'm a real life pilot.

ROF gives by far the best visual and audio sensations of flight, and flying on the PC that is all you have to go off of since there is no feel.

I'm not just talking about perty graphics and high def recordings, I'm talking about the total package of visual and audio perception and the way it is put together and presented. If that made sense.

Oh, make sure your system can run it too.

Same here.

Cheers,

RD.

On the graphics front ROFs aircraft modelling and lighting are first rate, the terrain however isn't up the same standard. It looks OK from alt (as all sims do) but low down I'm still waiting for it to wow me like the aircraft models do.

More buildings would be a good start but increased texture detail and variety is needed low down.

Now when this thread starts saying that the ROF critics are trolling and stirring again in an unfair manner, please note that it seems pretty obvious that the negative comments started here with your post WW.

Keywords: Pope, Catholic

The bears were busy doing er, something else

Ming

If and when the ROF critics start trolling is when this thread will state that the ROF critics are trolling...


Now, had poor Simon's post been in it's own thread, or even part of his earlier email thread in the tech support above, I would have read it as I think it was intended...an opinion post. And I would have left it without a reponse.

...however... Simon decided to make his humorous anecdotal post to a "should I get ROF" thread! The "graphics" portion of his information has absolutely nothing to do with the question the original poster put forth. The OP even mentioned he was getting a new rig! So it wasn't helpful to the OP at all. Therefor, we have to ask ourselves, why then, was the graphics information even posted?

I'll make no judgement on that question, I'll leave it for everyone else to decide for themselves.

Why would Simon feel it relevant to explain how ROF ran (or rather doesn't run - visually I mean) on his old archaic AGP setup?
And why would it not even be mentioned; and took a second post to clarify the point he was attempting to fly on an old AGP rig?

...I found that very (it still makes me chuckle) funny... I guess you didn't.

But that's quite a stretch to conclude with: "...pretty obvious that the negative comments started here..."?



Are you suggesting that me asking if Simon doesn't think ROF graphics are a quantum leap ahead of OFF graphics a negative comment?

HA! That too, is quite funny... (if that is indeed what you are suggesting)

Heck, all one has to do is see a side-by-side screenshot. I'm sure Simon has even seen screenies and videos of ROF to see that it is indeed a quantum leap forward from OFF!

Or was it the last line in my post? If so, read the current topics around here (i.e. the "flash back" thread's doctor/patient humor)... I just segued the two and chuckled. It wasn't what I would consider a negative comment. ROF wasn't broken because Simon failed to see a quantum leap in graphics on an AGP machine...*chuckle*...it was user...no wait....let's just say it wasn't ROF and leave it at that.


I saw no personal attacks or negative comments! No, like I always seem to do around here, I just cleared up some potential misinformation regarding Rise of Flight.

If you just want to get online and furball buy RB or any other old wwI sim,,,but if you want a true realistic experience buy ROF.

Brian

"Why would Simon feel it relevant to explain how ROF ran (or rather doesn't run - visually I mean) on his old archaic AGP setup?
And why would it not even be mentioned; and took a second post to clarify the point he was attempting to fly on an old AGP rig?"

Well dear, bizarre as this might seem, there are probably people out there who can't afford to update their PCs every year and who do have setups similar to mine. If they are repeatedly told that the graphics are top 'o the range buy ROF and don't get A1 graphics then they might feel slightly miffed. The poster asked for opinions, and I gave mine.

"ROF wasn't broken because Simon failed to see a quantum leap in graphics on an AGP machine..."

At no point did I describe ROF as 'broken'. Please don't attribute opinions to me that I didn't specifically state in my post.

I get it Simon.

It's not bizarre at all. Of course there are people in this world who can't afford to update every year. Nobody is suggesting there aren't. Hell, I don't upgrade ever year either. However, I suspect the OP doesn't fit into your reasoning, since he clearly stated that he was getting a new system!



ROF graphics are top-o-the-range compared to OFF (your example, not mine). It would be silly of him to try and get that range with a bottom-o-the-range video card!! So you were performing an anti-miffed service, I get it now.

Then why didn't you just say something like," ROF graphics are top-notch, but make sure you have the video card to run it!"




Perhaps we could have avoided all this confusion if instead of taking two posts to point out that you were on an archaic AGP system, you said something like:

With my AGP card running OFF: BHaH at full or almost full graphic settings, and running ROF with everything turned down or off - the graphics were OKish - I was expecting a quantum leap from OFF but didn't get it .

Big difference wouldn't you agree?




I never said you did...the broken comment was a reference of the other "flash back" thread, and used only to explain the context behind the doctor/patient stuff to Cas -- relax and quit looking for a fight....


I'm glad you got a chance to look at ROF Simon, wish it worked better for ya'. And I do hope to see you over virtual France someday!

S!

Brian

"With my AGP card running OFF: BHaH at full or almost full graphic settings, and running ROF with everything turned down or off - the graphics were OKish - I was expecting a quantum leap from OFF but didn't get it .

Big difference wouldn't you agree?"

Why should I qualify my statements to the nth degree? I stated my experience, that's all, and I added that my rig was running with AGP rather that PCI-Eor suchlike. I'm sure that the poster who started the thread would be able to appreciate this.

Stop being so damn defensive.

I will, as it happens now that I'm finally fully gainfully employed and bringing in a wage - something I suspect that not every readerof SimHQ is fortunate enough to be - be junking my gaming PC and getting a multicore PC with a shiny new Nvidia card which will allow me to sign back on at the NeoQB and give the game another whizz, but until then, I, like countless other gamers will have to struggle by with what we actually own as opposed to what we'd like to own.

Feel free to have a pop at people on fixed budgets, if you wish, I'm afraid that I'm not terribly bothered at continuing what can only be a dismal exchange of posts.