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#2904718 - 11/20/09 04:22 AM Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please
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Now I love this baby, but what a bloody handful..I have had the engine cut out so many times in the dive or extreme stunting..anyone any ideas as to why?? I do throttle back in the dive but the power just seems to drop away and then no engine frown Does the Camel have a radiator or not? I always thought that the radial's never had em, but I could be wrong .

All hints and tips for flying this little beauty would be very appreciated smile

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#2904743 - 11/20/09 05:06 AM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: 602RAF_Puff]
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Originally Posted By: 602RAF_Puff
Now I love this baby, but what a bloody handful..I have had the engine cut out so many times in the dive or extreme stunting..anyone any ideas as to why?? I do throttle back in the dive but the power just seems to drop away and then no engine frown Does the Camel have a radiator or not? I always thought that the radial's never had em, but I could be wrong .

All hints and tips for flying this little beauty would be very appreciated smile


Hi RAF_Puff (lol, sorry) biggrin . I haven't had the Camel long due to my hard drive dying on me, but here are my first observations. When turning left, the plane wants to climb due to the rotary (not radial) engines torque effect. Conversely when turning right the nose will want to go down. It turns much better to the right and once you master it can turn better than anything out there IMO. Someone will furnish you with a complicated reason for why involving "Centre of Gravity" and other mind boggling stuff; but thats not my area and you probably don't strictly "need to know", just trust in your feelings Luke Smile2.

It is also markedly "tail heavy" which you will want to bear in mind if trying fancy stuff like hammerheads etc. Elevator very sensitive, takes lots of practice to be able to aim well. Assign a button to blip switch which can help in turns, using the rotary torque to pull you round even faster (burning E of course, but you will pull massive lead ).

Turning left, kick in left rudder when you want to bank left, hold it down if sustained turn. The left turn is all rudder like the DR1 and an absolute necessity. Pedals will help enormously here if you have em. No substitute for practice in how much is needed in any given flight parameter/attitude, obviously varies just practise.

Visibility can be is a big weakness IMO, as an enemy in your upper hemisphere can be difficult to track for a precious few seconds, though the wing cut out does help. All the more reason to begin an attack with alt advantage if possible (as always). This will happen a lot to you if you like to use "lag pursuit" to conserve energy as I tend to do till the right moment for lead.

RE spins best to ask someone else, lots of observations here. Personally I've found left spins hellish and much more difficult to get out of than right, which is a relative breeze. Seems you need a lot of alt to get out of left spins, though I may be doing something wrong (not real life pilot, lots here who are and will tell you better).

No radiator control for the Camel so don't worry about that. Diving I am still trying to work out myself, though I'm tending to find it best to stay below 1600 RPM in dives, if above ease off. I cut back and blip but don't keep the blip constant. Steep dives I cut the engine altogether. I'd like to hear what others do too as I don't think I have it "down" yet myself.

Just my thoughts, like I say haven't had it long and I am certainly no "Camel Pro"....but hope it helps anyway. Handle with care! Smile2


Edited by Biggles07 (11/20/09 05:11 AM)
Edit Reason: Talking out me arse
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#2904754 - 11/20/09 05:29 AM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Biggles07]
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Thank you, very appreciated..off to kill my pilot now lol

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#2904765 - 11/20/09 05:44 AM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: 602RAF_Puff]
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Alreet and nee bother Bonny Lad, thats the Spirit....Fortune favours the brave, ken? hahaha
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#2904878 - 11/20/09 08:22 AM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Biggles07]
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If you're doing his portrait Puff I suspect we're going to need bigger paper

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#2904967 - 11/20/09 10:28 AM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Ming_EAF19]
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LOL....Whats that supposed tae mean like Ming, eh? smile

Is he a "Cubist" by any chance? Its just that me mates call me "Billy-Blockheed" lol. Hilarious, when they get together. Fuggin Tw*ts. biggrin
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#2905095 - 11/20/09 02:13 PM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Biggles07]
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Hi,
Stop making sense here. It's just minglish, so no one is supposed to understand.
Just pretend you do, post a smiley that doesn't make sense and move on lol
doesshe
See ?

Greetings,
Catfish

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#2905103 - 11/20/09 02:19 PM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Catfish]
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Originally Posted By: Catfish
Hi,
Stop making sense here. It's just minglish, so no one is supposed to understand.
Just pretend you do, post a smiley that doesn't make sense and move on lol
doesshe
See ?

Greetings,
Catfish


thumbsup

hahaha
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#2905226 - 11/20/09 06:22 PM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Jimko]
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1. You've told us you're a big bloke young Bigglesworth me laddo (bollocks now I'm catching whatever it is that Biggles has got)
2. You're a rather in-your-face type of guy (in a good and extremely pleasant way) and
3. Puff is an accomplished artist
4. Therefore in order to introduce you to Puffman, another good bloke if slightly less of him
4a.I was using a modified version of "We're going to need a bigger..."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=We're%20Gonna%20Need%20a%20Bigger%20Boat

Someone might have spotted the reference and off we'd go on another labyrinthine tangent towards a thread derailment, that's always exciting. It's making conversation really, a Celtic thing. Plus I remember everything, it's all in the details and btw does anyone know how to fix my 5 key Smile2

Not so much cryptic, one just needs to put the work in- for example Catfish lives in the place where the ocean meets the sky, now where might that be. We have a horizon. He might be a fisherman then of inland muddy rivers, or perhaps coastal waters: brackish waters anyway. Men from those parts always look longingly at the horizon "One day, one day..."

The horizon looms larger in their imagination than it does for city-dwellers and fleshpot technicians like us. Mind you he could be Ernest Hemingway on a day off Smile2

Ming
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#2905288 - 11/20/09 08:55 PM Re: Need a little advice from the camel jockey's..please [Re: Ming_EAF19]
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"Where the ocean meets the sky, I'll be sailing" ahoy

Rod Stewart, "Rhythm of My Heart"

But in this case, the implied meaning may be "Where the ocean meets the sky, I'll be flying..." pilot
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