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#2897608 - 11/09/09 11:25 AM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: Catfish]
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I am going to make a copy of that poster for sure,,,very cool!
We had a zep made for my Crimson Skies mod for third wire sims. It flew wonky but was fun to shoot down. I also made several models for SDOE in the old days when I was called "Hawk"
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#2897613 - 11/09/09 11:43 AM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: Warbirds]
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There is a Crimson Skies mod to Thirdwire?!? Where?!? I really would like to try that out!  Hawk as in Pete Hawk? Or a different Hawk. I remember the handle, although it's been many a year since FSIC...
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#2897681 - 11/09/09 01:23 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: ArgonV]
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Just plain Hawk..I made the P-61,,P-26 and a Gee Bee.
The CS mod never was finished sorry to say..put alot of work into that and had the coolest planes and paint schemes also. I had a video of some planes attacking a zep but cant find it anywhere, also all the files are gone from my harddrive.
SDOE was so cool to mod and make planes for, you could set up a radial engine to lose one or several cylinders and have it react correctly to the loss. The planes flew in real virtual air and the physics were wonderfull. I tweaked the Gee Bee to fly exactly like the reports of the real one. I just got burned out on it and went on to other things.
Edited by Warbirds (11/09/09 01:28 PM)
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#2897702 - 11/09/09 01:47 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: Warbirds]
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Ah yes Hawk! I remember now.  Your aircraft are still flying, I think all of them now have hi-res paint schemes. I understand about the burn out... Happened to a lot of great modders for SDOE! I'm still tinkering, though mostly only on the WW1 side. 3dp, Skid and I have taken to fixing up the aircraft packs for the WW2 side of things a bit though.
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#2900916 - 11/14/09 02:34 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: ArgonV]
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Found the video of the Crimson Skies mod I did for SF1 showing the Zep. http://www.archive.org/details/PaulGrubichCrimsonSkiesforSF1
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#2901003 - 11/14/09 06:22 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
[Re: Warbirds]
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Dart, I must confess, I do not have a definitive answer; maybe I can give you a head start. On October 2nd 1917 the Zeppelin L49 was captured in France. Somewhere in the L49 story some article might reference the number of raids of Zeppelin patrols over France. I hope that this helps. S!, MJ
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#2901022 - 11/14/09 07:26 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
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The Rocketeer is kinda cheesy but I still love it. Love the GeeBee Z, the Zep, and the autogyro at the end.
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#2901215 - 11/15/09 07:18 AM
Re: Zepps over France?
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Hi, maybe the original question somehow got lost, "How many Blimps over France ?" lol.
There were a lot of german airships missions of all kinds over France, but as said before (not to rub it in, just to be correct) no german "blimps" - those were german rigid airships. Mainly Zeppelins, but also rigid airships of the Schuette-Lanz type, and maybe also a half-rigid "Gross-Basenach" type. Mind you some of the airships over England flew back to their bases above parts of France, and Belgium, if mostly not intentionally - navigation errors, strong northerly winds, and misconceptions on speed or course over ground in unsighty conditions, took their toll.
So there were more airships over France, than those which did real tactical missions against said country. L49 is a good example ...
Those are only naval operations, the army types mostly flew missions over France and Russia, are unfortunately not in this table. Some army Zepps. helped the Navy sometimes during certain missions. As well some naval airships supported army attacks on France, or Flanders, but hard to find out what happened exactly when. What we really need would be a statistic of all german Zeppelins (naval and army) operating over France, and Flanders. I will try to get more info on that. But since there existed more than a hundred Zeppelin airships alone (naval and army types together) this is not so easy, so this list may give only a rough idea:
Sum-up of military operations with naval airships of the German Air Service:
1914 Reconnaissance flights - North Sea: 48 Days of rec. missions - North Sea: 35 of 148 Reconnaissaace flights - Baltic Sea: 10 Casualties: 0 airships
1915 Reconnaissance flights - North Sea: 297 Days of rec. missions - North Sea: 124 of 365 Reconnaissance flights - Baltic Sea: 53 Tactical flights - North Sea: 47 in all, 27 over England Tactical flights - Baltic sea: 4 Casualties: 10 airships
1916 Reconnaissance flights - North Sea: 253 Days of rec. missions - North Sea: 89 of 365 Reconnaissance flights - Baltic Sea: 30 (naval) 29 (army) temp. in service of the Navy Tactical flights - North Sea: 187 in all, 111 over England Tactical flights - Baltic sea: 15 Casualties: 16 airships
1917 Reconnaissance flights - North Sea: 242 Days of rec. missions - North Sea: 96 of 365 Reconnaissance flights - Baltic Sea: 42 (naval) 56 (army) temp. in service of the Navy Tactical flights - North Sea: 54 in all, 28 over England Tactical flights - Baltic sea: 27 Casualties: 16 airships
1918 Reconnaissance flights - North Sea: 131 Days of rec. missions - North Sea: 55 of 315 Tactical flights - North Sea: 18 in all, 11 over England Casualties: 11 airships
Altogether: Reconnaissance missions - North Sea: 971 Reconnaissance days - North Sea: 399 of 1559 Reconnaissance missions - Baltic Sea:135 (naval) 85 (army) in naval service Tactical missions - North Sea: 306 in all, 177 over England Tactical missions - Baltic Sea: 46 Casualties: 53 airships
(Numbers from Robinson, "The Zeppelin in combat")
Not to forget the Zeppelin that went to Africa, and back. One of my wife's distant relatives was aboard that one, and later died over the gulf of Otranto during a bombing raid against maltese docks, in 1918.
Greetings, Catfish
Edited by Catfish (11/15/09 07:33 AM) Edit Reason: added source, some typoes
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#2901448 - 11/15/09 03:03 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
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Warbirds, that was awesome! Thanks for finding that.  Man it's too bad it never got completed.. It would of been a fun mod!!
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#2901517 - 11/15/09 05:14 PM
Re: Zepps over France?
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Catfish, Wow! Thank you for contributing to our collective knowledge. SimHQ is an outstanding place to get a head start on WW 1 air combat historical research and your post is a great example of why. All the best, MJ
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