...it turns out the original guy who started the thread seems to have resolved the problem with - get this - fresh DirectX drivers.


Mail me the 50 dollars, no cheques

Ming

Hi,

err, does RoF run on a Mac ?




Greetings,
Catfish

Sure, use Bootcamp and install Windows. :P

Won't run that great though due to the rather weak graphics cards they install in Macs (which you can't upgrade).

I just love the way those who were convinced it was the OP's hardware, have now completely glossed over the fact that it isn't.

And, of course, now we all have to act as if it was "fresh" drivers (didn't know drivers "go bad"), or DirectX itself, or whatever...

No, it wasn't simply DirectX or drivers - the OP has now said so. He's also said that he tried both in an effort to fix this. Ultimately, he loaded a different OS, then installed DirX and drivers. Big difference. HUGE difference.

But, the rose-colored glasses crowd will continue to see things as they choose. Their loss, really. Whatevah. I guess it's a good thing; it just emphasizes the distinction between people who are actually skilled enough to do this and make a living at it...and 'wannabes'.

Patient: Doc, my arm hurts.

Doctor: Well, I've seen this many times before. Based on a long tenure of 100% success with other patients who exhibited the same problems, I'm pretty sure I know what's wrong...but you'll have to admit your body is flawed, and take action upon that knowledge, or we'll never solve this problem.

Patient: But Doc, I don't think it's my arm that's at fault here. I think we should treat everything else, while completely ignoring every other documented case...and ignoring the email we got from the Creator saying "This happens with arms I created".

Doc: OK. Believe what you will; good luck with your arm. Who's the Doctor here, anyway? Next...

(Patient walks away, mumbling in a sour-grapes tone "Just because you're really good enough to have done this successfully for your entire adult livelihood doesn't really mean you know what you're talking about...I'm going to find a Doctor who agrees with me...and hang out in his waiting room talking to others who agree with me. My arm doesn't hurt that bad...and it really looks great, anyway")

It was drivers, end of.

You mugs going on about rose-colored glasses and dragging out tired agendas, WTF has it got to do with you

So anyway it was not RoF and the rose-tinted glasses were not rose-tinted it was just the screenshots

Most of us tech-heads at one time or another have spent ages trying to help people who refuse to help themselves by thinking about things logically "It has to be the game!"

Well boohoo and btw pfft

How do you know that he didn't simply clean out his bad-old drivers and then he installed the latest drivers correctly.

One learns to take "In the end it was..." with a pinch of salt. Yes sure it was he said, being quite as patronising as the witterers on the sidelines prattling on about rose-tinted glasses.

This is the clearly thing again. You hear someone say "Clearly I do not think that" - you know right away that this person is easily led, because the media is full of people beginning sentences with "Clearly..."

Everything is so very clear all the time, this indicates that the person who is so clear about something lacks confidence, it's bluster. If one is confident it's easy to say "It might not be this, it could be that, perhaps it's something else" See the irony? Knowledgeable people say "It may be". Wannabees say "It must be"

That's better

Ming

Don't cheat yourself outa' 50 bucks Ming, I believe it was 100.00 dollars that was on the line.




Anyway, glad ya got it sorted out Warbirds! Doesn't matter that it wasn't ROF at fault here, as long as your up in the air, guns blazing!!

S!

hey agent WWBrian Dart sir....cool ur hardware-software educated....your not the f ing only one....there are ppl who also has some knowledghe in that area...tried everything and still have hardware issues....being a smartass will get u nowhere....

btw, I will check win7 64 bit with ROF and my system and well see what will be.....better or worse....

Play nice now people lol. Some of the posts are quite funny but its getting a bit "hand bags" perhaps now I reckon

@Warbirds, glad you are sorted mate, turns out it wasn't your hardware after all .

For myself, I'm confused as to best practice RE: DirectX and updates. So I tried two approachs. I had previously read from Neoqb to use the all the software (C++ redistributable, DirectX etc) included with the CD which I had done (installed without hitch). Same bad result with Catalyst AI enabled. Re-installed ROF along with the software, Clean install of Vista64 Premium, and still same result. Tried Vista updates and still same result (again all with Catalyst AI. Without, fine).

Add to the mix that Neoqb have stated they are still working towards full 64bit compatibility (and had previously warned that it was not guaranteed), I'm not sure why an expensive update to Windows7 should be needed to solve problems. Not everyone can afford it, especially these days....So it does not count as an expedient or realistic "solution" for everyone, end of story.

@Ming, RE the IL-2 Sturmovik screens, I can say that 9.11 Catalyst has not "porked" IL-2 in any way at all on my Rig mate, it runs great. Not to say that new drivers don't...I know that they can and do. Its my first ever ATI card and generally very happy with it, but being a lifelong Nvidia user I know that their driver releases can be sh*te too. I have no particular "loyalty" to either. I just fancied a change. Will probably go back to "the Devil I know" next buy though

I'd be grateful if anyone running a 4870X2 with Catalyst AI/both GPUS enabled with no problems could tell me what they are doing....Otherwise its just leave it off for now. Runs very well on one GPU, but if it can be better then I'm game

Cheers.

Lol, maybe it belongs in the "who cares" catagory...but anyway it all works great now..and Ming,,I was hoping it was not ROF as I love the damn game and think the devs have made a minor masterpiece,,,,it's all about sorting things out now isn't it?

I did renew, clean, renew, drivers and such many times with no change. I also hate to think it needs windows 7 as many are playing fine with xp or vista.

But the basic question still stands no matter how many say it's this, it's that,,,the question is what is it that causes graphic corruption in this game..examples are here for the non believers, just look for yourself at the post with odd thingies.

I am no tech although I have worked for one and built and repaired computers every day for over year and still, even to you who think your the god of tech, we find things that are not easy to nail down.

I am not saying it is ROF or OS or drivers, I am saying we still don't know. I was lucky,,something about my install of win 7 helped, not sure what.

And what about this direct x thing,,9, 10, 11,,,and then there is the 64 bit thingie.

Oh well, it's only a game and I am really glad it wasn't a mind melt from my 70's excess.

Glad to see the patronising tone and interpretation of everything under the need to prove agendas is still going, albeit not as strong as in the past

I come to this subforum once a month to get the potentially juicy bits of info and maybe watch a good argument unfold, but i have to say i'm a bit disappointed. Not only is the game progressing too slow (the BoB SoW demo might be out before this one is completed), you guys are also slacking!

I come to one of the big topics with a cryptic title, read through a few posts and see some potential, but what do i get in the end? A mild back and forth? And in the end just when it's about forum-fu time, everyone takes Ming's and Brian's word that "it's the drivers" and they settle down. Unacceptable gentlemen, totally unacceptable

P.S. Little hint...challenge them often and aggressively, they like it. Should liven this place up a little

See you again in a few weeks.