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#2898711 - 11/11/09 04:31 AM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Kosmo.]
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Originally Posted By: Kosmo.
Originally Posted By: Bono
Also, it is important to know that target doesn't need to be locked for LGB delivery.


Very important yes, and more precisely, target does not need to be locked (TGP or radar) for any kind of bomb delivery. Locking only helps to keep the crosshairs on target, preventing inadvertent slews. Of course it is quite helpful when bombing moving vehicles wink


Delivery of conventional bombs on moving target is a different story.
LGB is not missile and has very limited maneuverability. (remember, it's not a missile)

Correct me if I am wrong but, for moving vehicle targets, I'd rather run CCIP deflection shooting.

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#2899013 - 11/11/09 12:52 PM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Bono]
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Originally Posted By: Bono
Delivery of conventional bombs on moving target is a different story.
LGB is not missile and has very limited maneuverability. (remember, it's not a missile)


Yes, but you can still hit vehicles with LGBs, mainly because...

Originally Posted By: Bono
Correct me if I am wrong but, for moving vehicle targets, I'd rather run CCIP deflection shooting.


...in CCRP the FCC calculates the necessary lead (deflection) for dropping on moving vehicles (obviously you need a lock for that). All you need to do is follow the steering line.

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#2899191 - 11/11/09 06:24 PM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Kosmo.]
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Originally Posted By: Kosmo.


...in CCRP the FCC calculates the necessary lead (deflection) for dropping on moving vehicles (obviously you need a lock for that). All you need to do is follow the steering line.


Theoretically, yes but I find the FCC calculation, if at all, to be very passive and PK is not very high. Think about it, in reality, drivers in the vehicle have theirs hands on steering wheels while I maintain the FPM on the steering line. wink

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#2899299 - 11/12/09 01:36 AM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Bono]
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Yeah but they don't always know you're making a bombing run on them, plus lead calculation will get it to the general area, laser will guide it to the target even if it is changing direction a bit. Obviously if the target makes a sudden move, like stop and turn around it will probably miss, esp if it doesn't have enough energy, but how will he know there is a bomb coming his way to do that? I've hit vehicles with LGBs many times in the past, with very high PK (almost 100% actually). Anyway, the weapon of choice against movers are Mavs or CBUs anyway, but you can still get good hits with LGBs and occasionally even dumb bombs, is all I'm trying to say. wink

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#2899305 - 11/12/09 01:51 AM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Kosmo.]
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cheers

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#2899452 - 11/12/09 07:01 AM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Kosmo.]
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Originally Posted By: Kosmo.
Anyway, the weapon of choice against movers are Mavs or CBUs anyway


Agreed. IMO, cluster bombs are so superior against vehicles, moving or not, that using an LGB on one is just a waste of a Paveway.
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#2899724 - 11/12/09 02:09 PM Re: GBUs coming up short [Re: Pepperoni]
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I'll do initial attack with CBUs, then mop up stragglers and runners with GBUs or MAVs.

I read they (CBUs) were outlawed due to the Unexploded Ordnance they always leave But, then I read reports about their use in 2003 OIF and occasionally in Afghanistan. This is the old Mk20s and CBU-89s.


Edited by iamfritz (11/13/09 09:20 AM)
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