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#2848964 - 08/27/09 12:33 AM Re: Pilot Training ** [Re: Sim]
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Interesting that the prob has so much drag to it. I suppose "Boldface" means the EP checklist/procedures?

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#2848988 - 08/27/09 02:33 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: RSColonel_131st]
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Oh yes, a windmilling prop acts almost like a solid disk. The drag is incredible! I was in a Turbo Beaver where we simply set power to idle for a fast descent, and dropped like a rock!
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#2849009 - 08/27/09 03:48 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: RSColonel_131st]
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Interesting that the prob has so much drag to it. I suppose "Boldface" means the EP checklist/procedures?


Here's a similar boldface to what we use. Boldface is page 1, ops limits is page 2. Single wrong item in either results in blues.

http://www.t6driver.com/Boldface%20Ops%20Limits/Boldface-Ops%20Limits%20%28Filled%29.pdf

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#2849010 - 08/27/09 03:49 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: semmern]
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Originally Posted By: semmern
Oh yes, a windmilling prop acts almost like a solid disk. The drag is incredible! I was in a Turbo Beaver where we simply set power to idle for a fast descent, and dropped like a rock!


Yep. Prop actually moves to almost 90 degree so it acts like a speed brake.

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#2849110 - 08/27/09 07:15 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: Sim]
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probably a stupid question.....but the boldface says to set the throttle to idle, which is what you did....which is apparently wrong....why does it not say turn it to off?

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#2849113 - 08/27/09 07:16 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: Sim]
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I am guessing that there is no autofeather system ? (probably because it is a single engine aircraft).
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#2849193 - 08/27/09 09:30 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: ripper998]
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Originally Posted By: ripper998
probably a stupid question.....but the boldface says to set the throttle to idle, which is what you did....which is apparently wrong....why does it not say turn it to off?


Actually boldface states: Remember we are talking about engine failure immediately after takeoff.

AIRSPEED – 110 KNOTS (MINIMUM)
PCL – AS REQUIRED
EMERGENCY GEAR HANDLE – PULL (AS REQUIRED)

As required depends on a situation. Prop will auto-feather in all positions but not quickly enough for this situation. PCL - OFF will feather instantly but if you have little runway left, this position may not produce needed results.

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#2849249 - 08/27/09 11:00 AM Re: Pilot Training [Re: Sim]
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Okay, so thats what they are trying to teach you, use it yes, but as a guideline, use your judgement and experiences above everything else.

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#2849364 - 08/27/09 02:39 PM Re: Pilot Training [Re: ripper998]
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Let's talk about checklist. It's available though many websites. http://www.accessibleaviation.com/T-6%20Gouge/Callouts_Checklist.pdf

Before we solo, each step is required verbalization. Each yellow step requires exact phraseology and acknowledgment from Instructor Pilot. Knowing each step from memory is highly recommended or IP might get mighty ticked off due to wasted time. Add to that exact radio phraseology. Practicing for this is preferred while under stress to simulate flight conditions and allow brain to adapt. A lot of students sit in front of a T-6A cockpit poster and practice checklists during their free time.

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#2849430 - 08/27/09 06:15 PM Re: Pilot Training [Re: Sim]
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What Sim hasn't told you folks is that this only is only the beginning of the pressure you feel to get your checklists, especially EPs, done correctly.

Wait til the first time you do a stand up EP.

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