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#3110207 - 10/08/10 06:34 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Bounty]
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Pre ordered off Amazon, though it gives 29th as release date



It would be nice if Amazon US would get their **** together...
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#3110232 - 10/08/10 07:08 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: JG27_PapaFly]
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Originally Posted By: JG27_PapaFly
Looks great! For me, the missing force feedback is a dealbreaker though. I adopted to ffb as soon as it appeared and never looked back. I fly every weekend in R/L and to me force feedback and trackIR are unbeaten when it comes to giving me the feeling of immersion. I just hope that one fine day we'll see an ffb version of this.


I understand your feelings, and I'm not cutting on you, so please don't take it like that.

However, for an A-10 (and let's face it, lots of people will be flying F-16, F-18, F-15, etc)...force feedback would be anti-immersive to me.

I'm sure it does more accurately represent flying a mechanical linkage aircraft, but for _me_ and military aircraft it would be somewhere between an annoyance and cheating (using FFB to judge g-loading in dogfighting).
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#3110274 - 10/08/10 07:55 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: guod]
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The only time using FFB to "cheat" by using it to judge G-loading would be if you're flying a strict FBW aircraft like the F-16, where there is NO feedback at all. For example, the F-15 loads the stick pressure at 2.69lbs/G. I don't recall off the top of my head what the load is for 1G though.

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#3110292 - 10/08/10 08:10 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: WarriorX]
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Originally Posted By: WarriorX
[quote=-Avatar-]Looks really nice! Any rumors of a price in US$ yet? I can't find anything on their site that tells me.


http://www.fadfusion.com/selection.php?product_item_number=20260805128

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#3110325 - 10/08/10 08:46 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: guod]
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Now that's an easier price to pull the trigger on, but who knows if it will be on sale when they get some in stock. lol

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#3110354 - 10/08/10 09:20 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Gene Buckle]
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Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
The only time using FFB to "cheat" by using it to judge G-loading would be if you're flying a strict FBW aircraft like the F-16, where there is NO feedback at all. For example, the F-15 loads the stick pressure at 2.69lbs/G. I don't recall off the top of my head what the load is for 1G though.

g.


True...although the # of non-strict-fbw aircraft is dwindling.

In the US arsenal, in terms of planes you'd dogfight in...the -15 CAS isan anachronism... -16, -18, -22, -35 are all FBW....as, if I'm not mistaken, is the mudhen.

Think the MiG-29 would still be appropriate with FFB...not sure on their big brothers in the Su- range.
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#3110378 - 10/08/10 09:39 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Sokol1]
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$407.76 us, out the door.
bought mine and the cougar MFD's. cant wait to get this up and running.

dang i could of saved $7.00 dollars over there. but at blt they show what there getting in stock what they have left before back order on the first shipment.


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#3110408 - 10/08/10 10:08 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: guod]
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Can't wait to see pictures of the flight stick mechanism
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#3110460 - 10/08/10 11:02 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Ltfransky]
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Originally Posted By: Ltfransky
Can't wait to see pictures of the flight stick mechanism


I'd post the ones I took except:

a: I'm not sure I can right now and it's too late to get an answer back today
b: They wouldn't be flattering due to the sticky grease that's on the contact surfaces and spring.


We've been told we're free to show pics of anything that was shown at the media event, although I don't recall what was specifically shown of the mechanism. I've got a picture that shows...I'm not even sure what the proper term would be besides "model" of the throttle units...basically a beige palastic test-build of the throttle unit...and next to it is the "bottom" half of the joystick ball joint...but that really wouldn't help you much.

What exactly are you curious about? Perhaps I can describe and/or photo better for you...though I may need to get clarification on what can be said/shown if I don't recall seeing it in LA...though at this point...I'm not sure anything is gonna be "secret" for more than another week or so anyway.






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#3110500 - 10/08/10 11:36 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: guod]
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Teej,

I think Ltfransky wants to see the ball joint and coil spring. It was not on display at the E3 media event, and it remains the Warthog's biggest mystery to the public and anyone who is not a developer or beta tester.

No doubt there are many others who want to see this as well.

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