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#2895822 - 11/06/09 08:43 AM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: SimHQ Tom Cofield]
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Originally Posted By: SimHQ Tom Cofield
I'm beginning to wonder about the lawyer thing. I suspect he was told by the Army that he will have to serve out his contract and that may have sent him over the edge. The Army isn't going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars training someone only to have them bail on them a couple of years afterward.

Indeed, maybe he felt he was starting to loose it, and wanted to get out of the environment which was causing his mental state to degenerate?

I mean, certainly trying to get out with the help of lawyers indicates what kinda effort he was giving it to try to get away from the military.

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#2895869 - 11/06/09 09:40 AM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: Gargantou]
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Originally Posted By: Gargantou
Afterall, since he managed to rise to the rank of Major, it's obvious that this is not simply some Islamic nutter, obviously this is/has been an intelligent person.
He started as a Captain and was promoted once earlier this year. His rank has more to due with pay than command, and I'd be surprised if he even had a single soldier under him (but what he may have done with his patients is unknown). As far as intelligence goes, his passing med school would be a better indicator, but since when has intelligence precluded nuttiness, particularly amongst those whose motives are religious/political rather than personal.


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#2895892 - 11/06/09 10:07 AM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: akdavis]
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This gets more WTF by the moment...

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He gave a Grand Rounds presentation. . . You take turns giving a lecture on, you know, the correct treatment of schizophrenia, the right drugs to prescribe for personality disorder, you know, that sort of thing. But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Koran, and they said it didn’t seem to be just an informational lecture, but it seemed to be his own beliefs. That’s what a lot of people thought.

He talked about how if you’re a nonbeliever the Koran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire. And I said well couldn’t this just be his educating you? And the psychiatrist said yes, but one of the Muslims in the audience, another psychiatrist, raised his hand and was quite disturbed and he said you know, a lot of us don’t believe these things you’re saying, and that there was no place where Hasan couched it as this is what the Koran teaches but you know I don’t believe it. And people actually talked in the hallway afterwards about ‘is he one of these people that’s going to freak out and shoot people someday?’


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#2896030 - 11/06/09 12:54 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: akdavis]
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Originally Posted By: akdavis
Originally Posted By: Gargantou
Afterall, since he managed to rise to the rank of Major, it's obvious that this is not simply some Islamic nutter, obviously this is/has been an intelligent person.
He started as a Captain and was promoted once earlier this year. His rank has more to due with pay than command, and I'd be surprised if he even had a single soldier under him (but what he may have done with his patients is unknown). As far as intelligence goes, his passing med school would be a better indicator, but since when has intelligence precluded nuttiness, particularly amongst those whose motives are religious/political rather than personal.


According to reports he joined the Army right after high school. He was enlisted for quite a few years. It sounds like he did the Green to Gold program and used the military to put him through medical school.
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#2896048 - 11/06/09 01:26 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: SimHQ Tom Cofield]
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I would hate that. I did the Green to Gold program.
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#2896090 - 11/06/09 02:30 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: oldgrognard]
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My friend was still in the field when that happened, he just messaged me on FB.
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#2896101 - 11/06/09 02:44 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: SpongeBob55]
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#2896153 - 11/06/09 04:50 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: oldgrognard]
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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
All this Political Correctness is the rope with which we will hang ourselves.

No longer me; I have torn up the stakes and moved my tent to a different campground. I'm done with all this PC crap.


Me too. One of my favourite quotes go like this:
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

It hits frighteningly close to bulls-eye.
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#2896201 - 11/06/09 06:28 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: semmern]
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Firstly, my deepest sympathy to all that lost their lives. This is tragic.

In many ways, I am with OG.

If my words here get me barred from this forum, so be it, it has been worth it.

F**k political correctness. It is time for us to circle the wagons. "Multiculturalism" is a crock of #%&*$#. It does not work, it never will, because those who demand it are the very ones who do not embrace it. A local example is Australia's asylum seekers.

As most of you know, I was near to "loosing it" a few months ago. But I did not end up doing anything like this. I'm sure in weeks to come the pen pushers will find somebody else to blame for this whole ordeal.

To my good friends on this board I make this statement:

Next year, I will be coming to the United States, most probably Texas. I am an Anglican Christian by birth, and readily admit that perhaps I have not been to church enough in my life. BUT, I realize that it is an honor and a privilege to be able to go to the United States, not a right. If I am accepted as a citizen, then I WILL swear to defend my new nation with my life, the same as I would England, despite my age.

When are the politicians, lawyers, and policy makers going to open their eyes? WE ARE AT WAR. We are in a Holy War. And it is happening around us all the time.

Something has gotta give eventually.

Rant over. Hope I did not offend.

Andy.
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#2896206 - 11/06/09 06:43 PM Re: Ft. Hood under attack? [Re: FishTaco]
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