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#2904229 - 11/19/09 09:46 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Blackdog_kt]
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On whether you'll take any notice of someone offering tech-help, you will want to be convinced that you're talking to someone with at least a grasp of logic. Which is what you'll need above all.

Ming's... word that "it's the drivers"

Someone reported that re-installing DirectX fixed it. The DirectX runtime drivers are er, drivers

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your problem looks to be drivers with only a screenshot to go on


Looks to be with only a screenshot to go on

Looks to be

Looks

It's the drivers? No one said that.


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"It poured down with rain in the afternoon we got drenched!"

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The latter is legally actionable on drenching rain, the former is simply mulling things over with a straw in his mouth probably Smile2

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#2904237 - 11/19/09 09:56 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Blackdog_kt]
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Aren't a few of you sort of overlooking that ALL the other apps the OP was using, that used the SAME DirX and drivers, did so without problems? Only misbehavior was with RoF. (lemme double-check...yup, he did say so).

(But that's "clearly" not a problem with RoF. Nope, can't be. Now, where did I leave those darn rose-colored glasses? I need them...)


Face it: It's a problem with RoF. Unless you consider it acceptable or normal to have to change to an entirely different OS (from one which the app claims to support, BTW)...and then claim this was simply "new drivers". Get real.

BlackDog: They're not worthy of the challenge. They've proven all they know how to do is evade when confronted with sound reasoning. They've proven all they will ever do is act as if everything's hunky-dory in RoF land. They omit what doesn't fit their perspective, selectively quoting whatever they want to try and contort.

Yet, oddly, they haven't proven anything to anyone other than themselves. And I suppose it's just as well - because they're the only ones who should ever listen to them, anyway. Heh.
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#2904239 - 11/19/09 09:58 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Blackdog_kt]
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Patient (now via telephone): "But Doctor... the arm? Still can't move it."

Doctor: "You're overheated. You must have a fever. I know you could easily take your own temperature, but that will be unnecessary, and I really don't care what a thermometer says, anyway. I am an expert in these things, so I can tell you what's wrong without even seeing your arm, based upon my extensive experience with other illnesses. Fill your bathtub with ice water and get in it. Tell me if that helps."
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#2904250 - 11/19/09 10:18 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Hedgehog]
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#2904265 - 11/19/09 10:40 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Squid_Von_Torgar]
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I doubt very much that ROF could run on every possible computer hardware, software, setup and setting. If your in the catigory of 5% of the users having a certain problem with ROF, its usually a matter of tuning your computer to suit the software.

I have ROF running on a dual boot Windows XP 32 and Windows 7 64bit with no problems other than my mouse scroll wheel wouldn't zoom the map using Windows 7. It turned out my Mouse wheel and ROF didn't seem to like my increasing the text size at high resolutions. I could blame ROF, but having them chase every odd hardware software setup and setting problem would soon drive them to producing sims for consoles only.
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#2904266 - 11/19/09 10:42 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Squid_Von_Torgar]
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Won't die a quite death will it,,ok lets look at the facts and some clues:

fact I tried all the usual stuff, drivers, Dx, handy wipes,,ect. Nothing worked.

Fact I did still have odd graphic wacky stuff in one, and only one, game, ROF.

Fact I was going to wipe the drive and re-install my trusty XP Pro but decided to try Win 7 instead.

Fact I installed Win 7 and re-installed ROF,,ROF would not load. Crap, now what?

Fact ROF would not load because it was missing a DX9 DLL (as the error report pointed out).

Fact I downloaded the latested DX9 and installed,,ROF worked fine,,better than ever,,and so far no wacky pictures.

Fact I did re-install DX9 on XP before as a try, no luck,,,but I install DX9 on Win7 and luck.

What have we learned,,,installing a new os cleans out all the crap,,I might have had some crap that ROF did not like hanging in the XP rafters. Now comes the confusing part. I have an OS that had DX10 but I installed DX9 over it (thought you couldn't go back?) so do I have both or just one?


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#2904284 - 11/19/09 11:07 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Warbirds]
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Yes, you have both.

Or at least a DX10 with DX9 features and software built in.


Edited by Dart (11/19/09 11:08 AM)
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#2904320 - 11/19/09 11:50 AM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Dart]
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Aren't a few of you sort of overlooking that ALL the other apps the OP was using, that used the SAME DirX and drivers, did so without problems? Only misbehavior was with RoF.

The only misbehaviour seen by that user from the list of his installed applications, we didn't hear about other applications he might have run in which he would perhaps have seen the same pink problem

You say 'All the other apps' as if that includes all applications available

I say 'All the other apps that are currently installed on one user's machine'. And tomatoes obviously.

That fiendish logic thing again Smile2

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#2904377 - 11/19/09 01:28 PM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Ming_EAF19]
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That fiendish logic thing again


Easily disregarded when one is up for a nice back-and-forth, as it should be.
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#2904384 - 11/19/09 01:46 PM Re: Man,,am I having a flash back? [Re: Dart]
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Patient: "Doctor, I've been sitting in this ice water all day, even though I'm sure I didn't have a fever. I'm freezing my ass off now, and I still can't move my arm."

Doctor: "Well, if you didn't have a fever, why are you sitting in ice water?? That's probably part of the problem!"

Patient: "You told me to!"

Doctor: "I was just trying to help. Why are you being so ungrateful?"

Patient: "Everything you've told me so far has been either completely irrelevant and ignorant of the facts, just simple guessing, ill-advised, and some of it has actually made things worse!"

Doctor: "Hey. You get what you pay for. And I haven't charged you anything yet."

Patient: "Great. I've followed your 'free' advice, and I'm no better off. Still can't move the arm."

Doctor: "It's actually a known issue for people with arms such as yours."

Patient: "What do you mean, 'arms such as mine?' "

Dostor: "The kind that doesn't work right. You're probably going to have to replace it."
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