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#1715711 - 05/21/03 03:50 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued) ****
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Good Lord, hello old man.


Well yes indeed. When you consider how long we've been fiddling with it, it's stunning the detail that is contained in BoB and how much effort and passion that must have taken. In fact I have been watching the BoB DVD (arrived today) and it brings all the details home all over again. Splendid.


Interesting reading, btw.
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#1715712 - 05/21/03 08:52 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Greetings all,
Zerosan, thanks for the fascinating history lesson. I confess to being largely unaware of a big part of American history.
Well said regarding this sim and the BDG. One cannot sing their praises too loudly or too often.
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#1715713 - 05/21/03 09:46 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Registered: 12/13/02
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Loc: Rocky Mount, NC,USA
Folks,

Sir SNAFU & C51:

We do not have any of those stores handy. We have a CompUSA in Raleigh. I don't think they sell used items. There are others who do. And I will certainly check out the possibilities of a used 21". Although there are obvious benefits to "flat screen" monitors I really do not think they are quite as good in representing color and resolution yet so I will not be writing a really big check at the POP. This little 15" box is ruining my already faulty eyesight. I cannot even feed myself now without my glasses. And as I think about it, up until 4 or five years ago I thought a monitor this size was just dandy.

Yes, C51 as a Canadian you may be excused for not learning very much American history. However you really should learn just a bit of it since we are neighbors.Your lovely wife has kindly sent me a couple of your old school exam papers and frankly I am somewhat amazed by a few of your imaginative but totally incorrect answers.

1)For instance, Abraham Lincoln is not best known for having invented those little wooden building blocks for kids called Lincoln Logs.

2)The War of 1812 certainly did not start in 1814.

3)Believe me when I startle you with the fact that, President U. S. Grant is buried in Grant's Tomb and no one else.

4)Lewis & Clark were in fact not characters in the Superman comics or even the two TV shows (that was of coarse Lois and Clark).

5)The Fifth Amendment to our constitution, you will aparently be astonished to learn, has nothing whatever to do with alcoholic beverages bottled either in fifths, pints or quarts.

6)Oh yes, and Marijuana is surely not the name of the capital city of the sovereign state of California. Don't believe me? Look it up. ;\)

Zerosan2:

It is always a mighty special occasion when you kindly drop by. You always regale us with something quite interesting and special. Today was no exception. It is always a joy to stumble in here on any night especially on a dreary, rainy one like tonight and spy your name has been posted.

Hamilton Hawkins Howze was born in West Point, New York, on 21 December 1908. The son of Maj. Gen. Robert L. Howze (who served under Theodore Roosevelt and his "Rough Riders), he attended the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and graduated in the class of 1930, commissioned in the Cavalry.

Howze saw action in numerous European campaigns during World War II. He earned his Army Aviator wings in 1955. He is recognized as the intellectual force behind the concept of airmobility and current Army Aviation doctrine.

While serving as the first Director of Army Aviation, Depart­ment of the Army, from 1955 to 1958, he developed new tactical principles for the employment of Army Aviation, and was instrumen­tal in helping the Aviation Center and School become fully established in its new home at Fort Rucker, Alabama.

As Chairman of the Tactical Mobility Requirements Board in 1961, he cited the need for the development of airmobile theory and doctrine. The Army's adoption of the Howze Board recommendations revolutionized mobile warfare concepts based on the use of organic aviation in much the same manner as the introduction of the tank affected mobility concepts almost 50 years earlier.

The 11th Air Assault Division was formed in 1963 to test and validate these concepts. As a result of his leadership, foresight, and perception, two airmobile divisions were eventually established in the Army force structure. These divisions successfully provided the full spectrum of mobile, combined arms capabilities which are requisite to successful ground combat and which have become fundamental to modern airmobility doctrine.

Later, General (then LTG) Howze served as the Commander of the XVIII Airborne Corps. His last assignment was as Commander-in- Chief, U.S. Forces Korea, a four star United Nations Command involving U.S. and R.O.K. troops.

In retirement, he was a senior executive with an aviation company. A 1957 Charter Member of the Army Aviation Association, he later served as that organization's Senior Vice President and President during a four year period. He was a member of the Army Aviation Hall of Fame and was the Chairman of the AAAA's Hall of Fame Board of Trustees. He had resided in Ft. Worth, Tex.

Howze earned the Distinguished Service Medal, the Bronze Star for Valor, the Italian Military Valor Cross, the Korean Order of Merit First Class, and a number of campaign medals. He died on 8 December 1998.
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#1715714 - 05/22/03 06:03 AM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Greetings all,
JRT, why don't you just patch your video card to a big screen T.V.? There's nothing like a life-sized Me109 screaming in on you!
You can't blame me for those answers - I copied them from the guy who sat in front of me in the class. His name was Stinky Pewdley, and he is now the Dean of History at the Guido Sarducci University.
Thanks for more history lessons JRT. But don't forget that Hamilton Howze is most remembered for coining the phrase "Howze it goin'?"
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#1715715 - 05/22/03 02:07 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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JRT,
Thank you for that historical resume. I'll put the book away now, even thought I,m only up to page 97. \:D
Howze truely was an exceptional man. He writes of a time long gone, when honour, loyalty and duty were everything. I am absolutely enthralled by his book, and I cannot put it down.
Why, he is almost as good as you are, JRT :p
Canuck 51,
Thank you kindly, sir. You will however, see that JRT has been drinking the turpentine again, he always rambles when he's been on that. He is, however, a very knowledgeable man. But remember he is an American, and your duty lies with Queen and Empire, this side of the atlantic. Don't listen to his tosh about Redcoats and such. He still thinks they are at the bottom of his garden.
Why we let those bally upstart Yanks get away with a minor victory or two back in 1776, I'll never know. Still, they are kindly fellows when one gets to know them.

Bader,
Thanks awfully, old chap. I trust you are keeping your end up inside the BDG, now that all these foreign jonnys are helping. Remember, you are a British Officer and make sure your batman presses your van heusen correctly. Did you see the cricket today? Jolly good show. Has that Nasser chap been drinking? Bloody scandalous. I'd sack the lot of em.
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#1715716 - 05/22/03 02:49 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
Canuck51 Offline
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Greetings all,
Zerosan2, Queen? absolutely - that was a fine rock group indeed!
As for the Empire, I always sided more with the Jedi's. May the force be with you.
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#1715717 - 05/22/03 03:56 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Well yes. I love cricket, but not to see our chaps win all the time exactly. Good thing I suppose. I like the chance to sit next to a large lawn for a few hours and sip warm beer. Today's BBC write up is not exactly kind to Hussain. 'fraid I missed it.

The BDG is mightily international these days. On the basis that the Brits only speak English, the default language is.. English. Handy, really. ;\)
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#1715718 - 05/22/03 09:59 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Registered: 12/13/02
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Loc: Rocky Mount, NC,USA
Folks,

Hey, I'm risking losing my vision to type this miserable stuff. It is perhaps a useless attempt to teach a bit of history to you deprived heathens. Little appreciation I get for the effort too. \:\)

"Howze it hangin'" is really more precise. As a shave-tail Howze worked for a vain brig. general who wore a cheap toupe. Howse's primary responsibility on windy days was to make sure that "rug" was on perfectly straight. \:D

I tried connecting to the big screen TV and the picture was simply amazing. Just the letter "T" by itself was 4 feet tall and a simple period was big as my fist. The surround sound is nice if you don't blow anything up or crash. If you do you have to replace a lot of glassware. ;\)

Squinting at this tiny screen through my draining glass of turpentine reminds me of the visually challenged chap who was trying desperately to join the RAF at the start of WW2. His story I'm fairly certain was recounted in "James Herriot, the life of a country vet" by Graham Lord.

This unfortunate fellow had failed the RAF eye test at no less than five different centers at Glasgow. When in desperation he fell on his knees to beg them to take him in, the officer in charge said, "Listen, laddie, we're not the least bit worried about you but we're awful short of aeroplanes." With that in mind, I'm lucky to be flying at all and this may well explain all those prangs too. \:D

Speaking of history and cricket.... it may not be "cricket" to remind you however as I recall it, my dear Zerosan, the fellows marching at the foot of my garden wearing those fashionable target-red coats did not actually "let" us send them packing with broken swords and sans their regimental colors back to apologize profusely to Georgie Three.

We had to struggle like mad to whupp those tough Brits and Hessions first and then when the pesky frogs so conveniently showed up with their frigates off Yorktown and pointed their muzzles directly at Cornwallis' nether portions, trust me, he really had little choice in the matter. FX/Martial Music up: "The World Turned Up-side-down". ;\)

I will never understand the game of cricket. Although Shakespeare must have done. Old Dux who was probably there at the time will vouch for the fact that the game was being played in Guildford in Surrey at least as early as 1550. If you know the Bard's work you will not fail to recognize the influence of cricket. For instance:

"I see you standing like greyhounds in the slips" (Henry V)

'Let me be umpire ' and 'Give him a box'(Henry VI part 1)

I have often read Shakespeare but still cricket with all its similarity to our baseball remains a complete mystery to me. On the other hand football is another matter altogether. What do you chaps call a touchdown? \:\)
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#1715719 - 05/23/03 01:45 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Touchdown.

Canuck51 was touched when he was down - and taken advantage of. It all happened in Station Sick Quarters after his lengthy immersion in the moat. (See his last, wonderfully penned tale.)

Revelations are at hand...
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#1715720 - 05/23/03 05:06 PM Re: Here's what happened (Continued)
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Registered: 03/19/01
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All,

A visit or two by the most eloquent Z is always a welcomed treat at HWH. Hi Z, how's things ole boy?
We can almost always look forward to a few well penned words on a historical point or a current event when you grace these pages. Glad to see you sir.

Sir JR2, I cant help but ask what kind of big screen you connected the pc to. I have a HDTV rear projection and tried to hook the rig to it. I got it to work but couldnt find a resolution that filled the screen completely. I really wanted to see what BoB would look and play life on a large screen. The other issue I couldnt fix was a vertical scan line for a lack of a better term that would pan across the screen from top to bottom, one following another. The Xbox (very ) looks incredible. Playing Medal of honor is a real gas. I'd be interested in your experience or suggestions if you have an idea or two on how to address the issues I had.

Cricket? I havent the slightest.

V

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