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#2891205 - 10/30/09 01:31 PM Camel spin (Dirt knap)
Damocles Offline
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I've spun the Camel a couple of times, no real warning that I can see, but I've been too low to experiment with different techniques for pulling out.

Can anyone give me the proper drill for unspining a Camel in a twist. dizzy

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#2891211 - 10/30/09 01:37 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Damocles]
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Standard spin recover (stick forward, throttle back, full opposite rudder) plus into-spin aileron seems to work but takes a few rotations. Only tried it once or twice. The spin is very odd - doesn't seem to get established properly.

Cheers,

RD.
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#2891213 - 10/30/09 01:39 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Damocles]
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Yes. Providing you are high enough of course.
Come back on the power, neutralise your rudder, and push the stick all the way forward.
I know that doesn't sound right, but I've been doing it over and over... and that's the way to recover, trust me.
Actually, surprisingly enough, I find it easier than the others to recover from., after all the scary talk.
Oh, and of course, once you come out of the spin, start pulling the nose up and coming back with the power. I figured that was common sense, but you never know.
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#2891215 - 10/30/09 01:41 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Pooch]
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Ooops, Rocket, ya beat me to it. I was finding that no rudder to recover was working better, though.
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#2891220 - 10/30/09 01:50 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Pooch]
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I'll try that. Thanks for the tip.

The rudder is so effective, I guess it would be easy to flip into a spin of the opposite rotation as well.

Cheers,

RD.
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#2891225 - 10/30/09 01:52 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: RocketDog]
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Thanks I'll give that a try.

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#2891247 - 10/30/09 02:18 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Damocles]
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I've found that with the rotaries that sometimes it helps to shut off the engine to get out of a spin. However the prop might stop windmilling before you get out, then you have to dive a ways to get it going again.
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#2891327 - 10/30/09 04:31 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: RocketDog]
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Originally Posted By: RocketDog
I'll try that. Thanks for the tip.

The rudder is so effective, I guess it would be easy to flip into a spin of the opposite rotation as well.

Cheers,

RD.



That's exactly what can happen with both the Camel and the Dr.1 smile

Gentle on the rudder!

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#2891398 - 10/30/09 06:56 PM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Damocles]
Pitts2a Richard Ordway Offline
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"Can anyone give me the proper drill for unspining a Camel in a twist"

Someone discovered that if you force the nose straight down with forward stick and opposite rudder, it really gets you out fast...compared to other planes in the sim.

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#2891763 - 10/31/09 11:57 AM Re: Camel spin (Dirt knap) [Re: Damocles]
Damocles Offline
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I can see why it was considered dangerous for inexpirenced pilots, I've yet to manage to get it out of a full spin.

At least I have several million lives, they only had the one chance to get it right.

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