#2888630 - 10/27/09 06:03 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Interesting to see the competition react. EA/Dice is out there saying they would not treat the gaming community like Activision/IW, so perhaps this attack by Activision/IW will get us better support for upcoming PC Battlefield games.
Whatever the case, it seems that PC Gaming will depend on non-US based companies in the future. The US based companies on the most part are making console games and porting them over to PC, which in the end gets you a sub-standard PC game. Most of the exciting PC Games are coming from overseas.
Regards, Yeah right, when EA/Dice release BF1943 on consoles first... Comes to something when EA are saying the customers are being treated badly lol What does BF1943 being released first on the consoles have to do with anything? Well, pal, it has to do with my point of games publishers making games for consoles and then porting them across to PC....to do with PC taking a back seat to consoles....to do with I can have my opinion and say what the hell I like, called freedom of speech. Or maybe you dont understand how our democratic society works, or do not like democracy. I don't give toss about sound business decisions I only care about having to take the crumbs from the consoles table which I am sick of saying and really am tired of this debate and am going to have to accept the innevitable. And by the way do you work for DICE? Because you certainly sound like you do. I wish I did, DICE is a very nice company and has very nice people in it. And why shouldn't the PC take a backseat to consoles? The average development budget of a commercial game these days exceeds 15 million United States Dollars. Why should they prioritize the platform with lower accessibility and lower probable profit? Note, I am not defending poorly-made PC ports, but I am defending devs who choose to prioritize the console version and later make a GOOD PC version, even if it means delaying said PC version to ensure it's well-optimized etc. Also sorry for coming off a bit harsh, was having a bad day.
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#2888658 - 10/27/09 08:17 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Appology accepted I reacted incorrectly as well so appologies for that, always difficult to tell someones tone in text. No hard feelings.
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#2889277 - 10/28/09 03:24 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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This was interesting to see:
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DICE is paying homage to PC gamers with extra goodies in Bad Company 2.
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Sometimes PC gamers don't feel loved, especially when once-dedicated-PC-developers give all the attention and glory to consoles (you know who you are). But PC gamers are loved, it's just not vocalized on a daily level. That's why it's always music to our ears when a developer steps out and sticks up for the PC gamer.
With that said, Battlefield developer DICE thinks that PC gamers deserve extra features because they put up with more "crap" than the spoiled console gamers. According to Maximum PC, DICE community manager “Zerk16” was asked why many Battlefield: Bad Company 2 features are "dodging consoles' draft and defecting to the PC." The reason is surprising.
“The PC platform is usually expected to put up with a lot more ‘crap’ compared to consoles," he replied. "While consoles may get the game on a certain date, PC users typically have to wait much longer for the same game, but in turn, they get the game for a lower price because there are no licensing fees like consoles have, and typically they get a few more perks thrown in compared to consoles just for good measure."
He also added that the PC version of Bad Company 2 is getting more features because DICE has ignored the PC user base for the past 3 to 4 years; the upcoming PC version pays homage to those gamers. "It’s a lot of things that PC users simply deserve," he said. "If you have played games on the PC for the last ten years you would know what I’m talking about, otherwise I won’t even try to explain.”
You go boy."
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#2889452 - 10/28/09 01:48 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Sometimes PC gamers don't feel loved, especially when once-dedicated-PC-developers give all the attention and glory to consoles (you know who you are). But PC gamers are loved, it's just not vocalized on a daily level. That's why it's always music to our ears when a developer steps out and sticks up for the PC gamer. Whenever some game company tells me that they're doing something so I feel loved, it's time to check six.
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#2890783 - 10/30/09 08:50 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Whenever some game company tells me that they're doing something so I feel loved, it's time to check six.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true
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#2891856 - 10/31/09 09:55 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Games devs are becoming as hard to believe as politians as of late, let's hope DICE show the rest the way...
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#2892268 - 11/01/09 05:38 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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If you read a recent interview with Kotick, he sounds almost like a clinical psychopath. I wonder if that is what it takes to get on top with these multinational companies?
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#2900893 - 11/14/09 09:57 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Kotick, the Activision CEO is open in his intentions to make as much money for as long as possible from a game or series of games. He is not a gamer and he doesn't care about gamers and pretty much admitted this in public.
They aquired World of Warcraft and other pay per play games that brings in a constant flow of cash into the company. He mus thave instructed IW to do the same with MW2 and they just did. Expect more of the same from this company.
They can turn the switch when they need to sell you MW3.
Look at the money they make from the Guitar Hero and the derivatives. Same idea packaged differently as many times as possible.
Now that is not a bad thing...
I don't think someone is thinking in killing PC games in purpose, but business decisions like this will kill PC gaming...
Now, PC gamers won't (hopefully, for their own good) buy MW2. But you know what? I think we would have pre-ordered and bought MW3 and MW4 in a flash. If there were dedicated servers from them that is... agreed. A lot of people(and myself) was about to buy MW2 for the PC, but cancelled it because of the lack of support for us. I played it with my friend of PS3, and I must say that I like it. Too bad they let us down
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#2901441 - 11/15/09 10:49 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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Ok, I am going to put my two cents in here for what it is worth. The following is not directed at any particular comments made thus far regarding the PC version of CoD:MW2.
First of all, yes no dedicated servers. I agree, it is a shame that they are not supported. And yes, no lean. That one really boggles my mind. And I can understand why some might not like the idea of losing Mod support but I do not play Modded anything other the Arma 2 at the moment so I can not comment on that. However, after playing the game through single player ~1.5 times and about 10-15 hours so far of multiplayer, it is a lot of fun ON THE PC! The story in single player is still top notch. The multiplayer is still of very good quality...even with 9v9 players. Action is fast paced both sides of the coin. In fact, my friends that normally have been playing either CoD:MW and CoD:WaW are moving over to CoD:MW2 as we speak. While not having a regualar dedicated server is unfortunate, it just is not enough of a negative to keep us from doing so after having played the game for a time.
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#2901890 - 11/16/09 04:50 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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