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#2886537 - 10/23/09 03:47 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: PatrickAWilson]
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Originally Posted By: PatrickAWilson
I always liked Voss' DRI.


Agreed! thumbsup

...with a close second to Kempf

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#2886549 - 10/23/09 04:13 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: HotTom]
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Originally Posted By: HotTom


Jason, like you, "I'm tired of the gloom and doom threads here" but there is a reason they are here and you are among the reasons for them.


Hey Tom,

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, this looks more like a justification attempt, or an excuse to make "doom and gloom" ok. I cannot subscribe to this line of thought.

Originally Posted By: HotTom
Folks, keep in mind when you read this, Jason is like the guy at the car lot selling this sim ("What can I do to get you to drive it home today?") and his interests are not exactly the same as "Joe Sim Player." His primary interest is greed (on which our entire capitalistic system is based and we can all see where that got us in the past year).


So what you are saying here is something like:

Jason: "I need to make a quick buck, hey! I'll use ROF to take money from a small niche group, yeah! I'll make bank and be the next Bill Gates!"

...see how silly that sounds?

No, I see it more like this:

Jason: " Dude have you seen ROF? It's bad-ass! I want to get behind this and help in whatever way I can to get this out to the people!"

...wouldn't that make more sence? I mean, c'mon, really?

I mean, I understand how common it is for folks to automatically assume a game developer (as it's publishers) are all just money-grubbing capitalists who are all about the mighty dollar....but give it a rest, will ya? Jason has already proven that he's not that kinda' guy! Those profit-guys are not about going out of their way to help a single user once he has their cash! You need to lighten up and look at the entire picture here.

Originally Posted By: HotTom
It isn't so much that "we're barely 120 days out from launch" (as Jason says) but the fact that most of this should have been working properly at launch (that's the part he doesn't say).

They (including Jason as the publisher) shudda been "on it" before they "released it."


And there are a myriad of explinations as to why it came out like it did...many of them have slivers of truth to them. But the fact remains that ROF is still 120 days released.... I have a better time drawing conclusion on facts rather than emtions and opinions on why it should or shouldn't be one way or another...

Originally Posted By: HotTom
Clearly many of these problems were identified during the initial beta testing and not resolved before RoF hit the market as a retail product.


Identified, yes....but like anything else some things cannot meet deadlines (set by parties not in dev control) and must be addressed at a later date. Surely you can understand this concept, yes?

Originally Posted By: HotTom
Jason is just laying down a smoke screen here. He's telling you what he wants you to believe. Like any salesman, he's "your new best friend."


This is unfair, and just your opinion!! I do not share in this opinion, and think you are crossing a line making judgments about things you know very little about ( no offence intended there - seriously)

Originally Posted By: HotTom
I sincerely hope what Jason is saying is correct and accurate ("they're working very hard..." "your initial investment will be more than fulfilled in just a few short weeks....") but my BS Alarm is going off at very high volume with every sentence I read. Somebody is laying it on waaaay too thick....


And I too hope Jason is correct. But I am 99.9% certain that he is telling what he believes...and not blowing smoke up peoples' asses!

Originally Posted By: HotTom
Granted, the Camel and the DR1 look beautiful.

But all of ROF's planes look beautiful and (mostly) fly beautifully.

That's the primary reason I stick around. I really enjoy the models. They are, IMO, the best ever in any flight sim.

But the game play? Pretty sad.

"All of this is being worked on...."

I'll believe it when I see it.

And if I do say it, I will say "Thank you."

But not quite yet.

HT



Well, I hope to hear that "Thank You" someday. What I recommend is a bit more (no, substantially more) patience. Not fixed in 120 days is understandable...not fixed after a good many months/years!? Then I'll come back to this post and agree with you 1000% Tom!

But Neoqb has a finite number of bodies working on the fixes. It sucks that it takes longer than a day or week to address and correct....but it just does! We all need to realise this and deal with it. Even if dealing with it means taking a break and coming back later. It's this daily discussion that makes it seem to take too long. But realistically, look at all that Neoqb has done in those 120 days, and how much of that is directly because of user feedback. You might be supprised.

Humbly submitted,

S!!
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#2886562 - 10/23/09 04:30 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: BlueRaven]
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Originally Posted By: BlueRaven


Enough of you limey fog breathers and your camels. Prepare to face the wrath of The Blue Raven swooping down onto your tail.... er I mean turning tightly out of your way.... in his shiny new DR1!


Curse you, Red...er, I mean Blue Baron! Cuss

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#2886570 - 10/23/09 04:39 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: PatrickAWilson]
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Originally Posted By: PatrickAWilson
I always liked Voss' DRI.

I always like any none MvR skin. I mean, if you see pictures of let's say 100 Dr.1. How many are not from MvR, with it's distinctive red Dr.1. Maybe 10.

Kudos to NeoQb that they have not released screenshots of the Dr.1 with the MvR skin. I very much appreciate that.

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#2886583 - 10/23/09 04:55 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: Jimko]
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Originally Posted By: Jimko


Curse you, Red...er, I mean Blue Baron! Cuss

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I'll get you and your little dog too!


On a side note, I don't see Neoqb and 777 as the the usual dev/pubs these days. Kinda remind me of the guys at Bohemia Interactive. I'm sure a few of you know the full story of the Operation Flashpoint and ARMA series.
When Operation Flashpoint was released in '01 there was nothing like it, however it was riddled with bugs. But BIS supported it, patched it, and listened to the customers.

Eventually Codemasters (The publisher) basically stole the Operation Flashpoint name to try and cash in on it later.
BIS developed the true sequels under the ARMA and ARMA II names, and what a fantastic game ARMA II is, even with the bugs, but BIS has a history of great support.

Now Codemasters has released Flashpoint 2, and it has turned out nowhere close to what they claimed it would be, and in no way competes with ARMA II. Flashpoint 2 is falling on it's face, and Codemaster's history is to dump a game and move on.

I've played BIS games for going on 9 years now, I've been there since the beginning of Operation Flashpoint and through both ARMAs. The begining of OFP reminds me of where we are at right now with ROF. I have faith in Neoqb, it takes time to get these kinda things sorted out.

If these niche gaming companies want to have any kind of future besides going bankrupt, they have to support their games and listen to the customers. They can't afford to just cash in and move on.
I seriously doubt that Jason and 777 picked ROF thinking they could cash in and make a quick buck.
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#2886601 - 10/23/09 05:42 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]
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Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason

As far as what the true majority feels or experiences, it's impossible to say exactly.


Yes, impossible to say exactly.

But the number of people playing online at any one time is a pretty good indicator.

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#2886602 - 10/23/09 05:42 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: BlueRaven]
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Pity the poor game developer. People are screaming at him to "release the damn game already!"
He releases it ,and they scream, "Why did you release this damn game before it was ready?"
Not perfect, yeah. But I'd rather have it now and have some fun while they're fixing it.
But, back on subject. Man are those two rotary engined beasts beautiful!
If I can't kill anything in the Camel, then I'm going to be forced to admit that I just plain suck!
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#2886621 - 10/23/09 06:24 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: Pooch]
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Folks, keep in mind when you read this, Jason is like the guy at the car lot selling this sim ("What can I do to get you to drive it home today?") and his interests are not exactly the same as "Joe Sim Player." His primary interest is greed (on which our entire capitalistic system is based and we can all see where that got us in the past year).


Actually, Jason's more like the guy that sold you a car and then stands behind it, asking if it's okay and offering free service on it as well as free upgrades.

Capitalism is a good thing. Without capitalism, there wouldn't be a Rise of Flight simulation.

Hell, we wouldn't have a lot of simulations without the spread of capitalism. If Communism worked, we wouldn't have the IL-2 series, Black Shark, or Rise of Flight, as those programmers would have been doing other things in the USSR. Best Cold War peace dividend EVER.

So one could say where our entire capitalistic system got us in the past year is a damned fine WWI flight simulation.
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#2886625 - 10/23/09 06:34 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]
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Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
Originally Posted By: womenfly2
Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
I'll have videos of each for Monday.

Jason


.... you big tease! popcorn

Thanks J.


Watch it WF2. I'm single again. Don't like to tease. :-)

Jaon


Wait....are you joking? WTH happened?

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#2886626 - 10/23/09 06:35 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: Dart]
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That's super news! Awesome...finally my favorite tripe in the simulation.

btw - Thanks again Jason for bringing this superb simulation to us in the USA. Don't let the vocal negative minority get to you as I know there are plenty of folks here that are grateful for what we have now and what's to come. I for one do not have all the issues the same folks complain over and over about.

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