Forums » Air Combat & Civil Aviation » Rise of Flight - The First Great Air War » Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008


Page 8 of 8 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#2886640 - 10/23/09 06:54 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: BlueRaven]
Jimko Offline
Member

Registered: 08/08/09
Posts: 375
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC
[quote=BlueRaven
If these niche gaming companies want to have any kind of future besides going bankrupt, they have to support their games and listen to the customers. They can't afford to just cash in and move on.
I seriously doubt that Jason and 777 picked ROF thinking they could cash in and make a quick buck.
[/quote]

I've also thought the same thing about neoqb...at least I hope this is the case! I think that their strategy is to keep building and expanding on this first venture and the sense I get is that they are in it for the long (and hopefully very profitable) haul!
_________________________
Jimko

"The older we are, the better we were!"

Top
#2886673 - 10/23/09 08:55 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: Jimko]
JFM Offline
Member

Registered: 01/08/06
Posts: 497
Loc: Naples, FL
Hello,

Just a historical FYI, since I'm a "rivet counter": Voss never flew a Dr.I. He flew the pre-production F.I 103/17 and died some 11 days before the first Dr.I reached the front. Nearly the same plane, although it had different horizontal stabilizers, different engine cowl and no wingtip skids.

Based on the ROF Alb D.III(OAW) release, wouldn't surprise me to see a Voss skin on a Dr.I. It's "close enough" and I suspect most won't care about that historical detail, anyway. If a faux Voss skin is provided I wonder if it'll be olive green streaked over bleached linen; olive green streaked over light blue; and, regardless of either, whether it will have an olive green cowl or yellow cowl? If the skin is included, the choice will be interesting.

In any event, I sure hope the Jasta 18 triplane (if included) is vermillion red and white and not blue and white!
_________________________
JFM
Jim Miller

Top
#2886679 - 10/23/09 09:30 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: Sim]
777 Studios - Jason Online   content
Member

Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 2466
Loc: Redlands, CA
Originally Posted By: Sim
Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
Originally Posted By: womenfly2
Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
I'll have videos of each for Monday.

Jason


.... you big tease! popcorn

Thanks J.


Watch it WF2. I'm single again. Don't like to tease. :-)

Jaon


Wait....are you joking? WTH happened?


Divorce is what happened Sim.

Jason
_________________________
777 Studios - Proud Developer of Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War. The Best WWI Simulation on the PC!

XIM 3 - Use Your Mouse and Keyboard on the Xbox 360. Perfect for PC gamers who don't like thumbsticks!

Top
#2886684 - 10/23/09 10:08 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]
Dart Offline
Contributing Editor
Just upgraded from intern
Veteran

Registered: 09/02/01
Posts: 16536
Loc: Alabaster, AL USA
Sorry to hear it.

At any rate, thanks for putting your money down on the spot marked RoF and watching the wheel spin. You earned the buck twenty five from my purchase of RoF, as I've gotten many hours of enjoyment from the sim without having to import it from Europe or the CIS myself.

And thanks for being one of the faces in a suit of the simulation. It would be very easy to say "I'm just the distributor for North America, guys; I don't actually work for neoqb, and the only people I work with is their marketing and distribution," and not take any of the heat you have.

Unless, of course, you actually speak and write in fluent Russian and have degrees in software engineering, physics, or visual arts.

If so, I have a short but very meaningful selection of things I think are vital to be placed at the top of the work priority list.
_________________________
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.

More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.com

From Laser:
"The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."

Top
#2886685 - 10/23/09 10:09 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: HotTom]
777 Studios - Jason Online   content
Member

Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 2466
Loc: Redlands, CA
Originally Posted By: HotTom
Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
2005AD,

I'm not sure what you mean by "Major Fixes". The sim works and I'm tired of the gloom and doom threads here.

A roadmap will be posted soon that will explain when some new features will come etc. A new feature is not a "fix".

Other than the stutters some people are complaining about, I don't see any show stopping "bugs" when I play with my friends.

I know people want certain new or different features like.

Replay
Dogfight Server
QMB
Manual for ME
Two-Seaters
RPG Elements in Campaign
Joystick Curves
Options available in Game
3rd Party Object Dev. SDK
etc..

All of this is being worked on. We're barely 120 days out from launch. neoqb has listened to forum posters, the publishers, beta testers and their own survey responses to formulate a plan for continued development. Some of this does not happen over night or in a couple weeks. The team is working very hard to give you what you want. If not already happy with your purchase and investment in ROF, your initial investment will be more than fulfilled in just a few more short months thanks to the hard work of the dev team.

Other sims go straight to vaporware. Others were DOA at launch, only to be saved by the community. Other sims were "ok" at launch and then re-launched and then improved over time to be a classic. Other sims are re-built every couple years and then re-sold for top dollar. ROF has not been abandoned by the developer, they are working hard to improve the already fun flying experience and they have listened closely to the community and are acting upon it.

Enjoy each new patch or feature that comes out, pick up a plane or two if so inclined and watch ROF mature and grow. If you own ROF, we pubs and the devs deeply appreciate your support and continued support.

Bottom line is that the "major fixes" I think 2500AD is referring too, takes time and they are on it.

More soon...

Jason



Jason, like you, "I'm tired of the gloom and doom threads here" but there is a reason they are here and you are among the reasons for them.

Folks, keep in mind when you read this, Jason is like the guy at the car lot selling this sim ("What can I do to get you to drive it home today?") and his interests are not exactly the same as "Joe Sim Player." His primary interest is greed (on which our entire capitalistic system is based and we can all see where that got us in the past year).

It isn't so much that "we're barely 120 days out from launch" (as Jason says) but the fact that most of this should have been working properly at launch (that's the part he doesn't say).

They (including Jason as the publisher) shudda been "on it" before they "released it."

Clearly many of these problems were identified during the initial beta testing and not resolved before RoF hit the market as a retail product.

Jason is just laying down a smoke screen here. He's telling you what he wants you to believe. Like any salesman, he's "your new best friend."

I sincerely hope what Jason is saying is correct and accurate ("they're working very hard..." "your initial investment will be more than fulfilled in just a few short weeks....") but my BS Alarm is going off at very high volume with every sentence I read. Somebody is laying it on waaaay too thick....

Granted, the Camel and the DR1 look beautiful.

But all of ROF's planes look beautiful and (mostly) fly beautifully.

That's the primary reason I stick around. I really enjoy the models. They are, IMO, the best ever in any flight sim.

But the game play? Pretty sad.

"All of this is being worked on...."

I'll believe it when I see it.

And if I do see it, I will say "Thank you."

But not quite yet.

HT




HT,

Let's get one thing 150% straight. If you are going to quote me, get it right. My exact quote is as follows. "If not already happy with your purchase and investment in ROF, your initial investment will be more than fulfilled in just a few more short months thanks to the hard work of the dev team."

Why is it when I make a post about some inside info about what neoqb is working on turns into calling me a shill and I'm blowing smoke. I DARE you to find anything I have said to be purposely false or misleading or disingenuous. Give me a break. And while your at it look for over the top quotes from me that says ROF is perfect and the best sim ever. Find any supreme cheerleader quotes from me? If I was a car salesmen masquerading as a sim publisher that's what you'd find right?

I come here to share information, help people and carry on convs with a bunch of like minded simmers, I have been coming to SimHQ for over 12 years, both as a civilian and a proprietor. I remember back in the day whenever a publisher or developer would give the community some inside info everyone would be at a minimum simply grateful for the info. Now it's a game to try and find a way to shoot me down or the developer down and nit pick every single comment as false.

HT I challenge you to find the financing and then build your own sim and release it in absolute perfect condition with every feature possible included. That's my challenge to you my friend. Prove me wrong and show me that I and neoqb did such a terrible thing.

It's getting really, really tiring. We know what things you do and don't like about ROF. Endlessly second guessing neoqb and wanting answers about patches and then shooting the messenger when he gives you some answers is just plain dumb. All I was trying to do was tell you what is going on in a general way because an official announcement has not been made yet. Excuse me for trying to be positive. Should I not help neoqb announce this good news? Do you want me to only announce stuff via Press Releases? Do you not want me here? If the ad hominem atacks on my style of communication continues that how I will conduct business at SimHQ. I put my reputation on the line when I say stuff here. I mean what I say and only say what I believe to be the truth.

Mods close this thread please. I don't know why these discussions about simple things like new aircraft devolve into arguments like this.

This thread should not be about me. Only the Camel and Dr.1 which I know a lot of simmers were interested in seeing. This is the second thread that has gone in the toilet because people attack me when I bring inside news. I guess I should just stop doing it.

My apologies to those that feel compelled to defend me. I appreciate it, but when you do it only takes threads like this off course. Sorry to those that wanted to discuss the Fokker and Camel.

And don't give me the "Jason shows no respect to his customers because he argues with his customers" jazz either because I defended myself. Every company and individual has the right do so. I show you respect week after week by answering your questions, rewarding 3rd parties who help develop cool stuff and by sharing important information from neoqb. If I really was the "take the money and run type" don't you think I would literally take your money and NOT come here and instead resort to other impersonal means of communication?

And if you new how little I make off of this enterprise you'd probably not do it yourself. I do it because I like the hobby.

Jason


Edited by 777 Studios - Jason (10/23/09 10:10 PM)
_________________________
777 Studios - Proud Developer of Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War. The Best WWI Simulation on the PC!

XIM 3 - Use Your Mouse and Keyboard on the Xbox 360. Perfect for PC gamers who don't like thumbsticks!

Top
#2886690 - 10/23/09 10:21 PM Re: Camel & DR I confirmed - with pictures in 1.008 [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]
Dart Offline
Contributing Editor
Just upgraded from intern
Veteran

Registered: 09/02/01
Posts: 16536
Loc: Alabaster, AL USA
closed by request.
_________________________
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.

More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.com

From Laser:
"The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."

Top
Page 8 of 8 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:

Moderator:  EinsteinEP 

Forum Use Agreement | Privacy Statement | SimHQ Staff
Copyright 1997-2012, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.