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#2884962 - 10/21/09 05:20 PM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: DD_JoeBob]
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dang Laser, 07:51 is a very good time! you must have nailed the start & had one heck of a turn at gate 16. Percy is really depressed, he’s walking around here mumbling something about not fair having Dart make pukas for you. NKP Meaux GGAR page updated with new time.

how do your right start gate times compare?
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back before reaching one's objective. That was bad for the discipline
of the courage that is just beyond fear.'

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Now it Can be Told. Harper & Brothers, 1920.


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#2885025 - 10/21/09 07:41 PM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: Ming_EAF19]
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Originally Posted By: Ming_EAF19
Last one to the mustard factory is a ninny!

Should Meaux have fields of mustard flowers I looked for (texture artist info maybe) and found a nice war story Smile2

Quote:
In a village named Penchard there was some very sharp fighting, and some of our artillery were posted hereabouts. Presently a German aeroplane came overhead circling round in reconnaissance. But it was out for more than that. Suddenly it began to drop bombs, and whether by design or otherwise — they have no manners, these fellows — they exploded in the middle of a field hospital. One of my friends, a young doctor, was wounded in the left arm by a bullet from one of these bombs, though I don't know what other casualties there were. But the inevitable happened. Shortly after the disappearance of the aeroplane the German shells searched the position, and found it with unpleasant accuracy. It is always the same. The German aeroplanes are really wonderful in the way they search out the positions of our guns. We always know that within half an hour of an observation by aeroplane the shells will begin to fall above the gunners unless they have altered their position. It was so in this fighting round Meaux yesterday.


http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Story_Zouave/Story_Zouave_01.htm

Hmm two-seater, observer in the back, click on a spot below correctly: artillery barrage opens up on it "the way they search out the positions of our guns" challenge

Nice work soda!

Ming


Ming, thanks for the introduction to Sir Philip Gibbs, what a powerful writer. just spent a hour learning about him. reading ‘Now it Can be Told’.
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of the courage that is just beyond fear.'

Sir Philip Gibbs
Now it Can be Told. Harper & Brothers, 1920.


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#2885187 - 10/22/09 03:16 AM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: soda]
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Originally Posted By: soda
dang Laser, 07:51 is a very good time! you must have nailed the start & had one heck of a turn at gate 16. Percy is really depressed, he’s walking around here mumbling something about not fair having Dart make pukas for you. NKP Meaux GGAR page updated with new time.

how do your right start gate times compare?


I haven't started yet the right-start-gate course. On the left side, learning 'where the next gate is' is very good because i can go above the trees and cut directly to the next circle. For the gate 16 i use a kind of hammerhead but i think that can be improved by making it shorter. I still have to check if it's faster to go near ground/water level or to easily climb after a gate, trying not to loose speed then diving to get even more before the next one. This helps me a lot to learn the plane smile

For multiplayer, nice 1vs1 could be made by using check zones and gates enabled one for order one for opposite, and the tracks being parallel with intersections biggrin (i.e. left gate for order, very close to it a right gate for opposite, but at next gates they are switched). In this way, those who finish first can activate the 'order wins' or 'opposite wins' target object hooked to the end object mission or to the deactivation of enemy's gates. Or, when you reach a specific gate, you can activate an alternate course for the enemy :P, either longer or more difficult.


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#2885921 - 10/22/09 10:33 PM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: Laser]
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Gus! 4 planes on one course must be absolute mayhem!
Wounded ... any chance you guys could film a run for us?

the head to head multiplayer competition version is a little different than you suggest Laser. it uses order/opposite designations (so template for your DFGen can be used) and same gates, timers & check gate notifications as practice versions. order pilot is assigned right start gate (finishing left), opposite to use left start gate (finish right). at start both the right & left start gates are activated at the same time. competitors run independent for first 6 six gates, merging at gate 7. distance from right start to gate 7 is about 900m shorter than left, but has the tight turn at gates 3 & 4. if both pilots get even start & run perfect, should be a slight stagger going into the shared gates. leader has right of way after gate 7.

used separate order/opposite designations from trigger check zone advanced properties to send gate check notice/deactivate at solo gates; both order/opposite designations plus a 2 counter at shared gates. first one through finish gate triggers win message & deactivates competitors finish trigger check zone.

could get messy but should be doable. what do you think?
_________________________
'It was as good to go on as to go back, and it was never good to go
back before reaching one's objective. That was bad for the discipline
of the courage that is just beyond fear.'

Sir Philip Gibbs
Now it Can be Told. Harper & Brothers, 1920.


Na Kane Pono - Realism and Immersion

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#2886013 - 10/23/09 03:41 AM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: soda]
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Originally Posted By: soda
Gus! 4 planes on one course must be absolute mayhem!
Wounded ... any chance you guys could film a run for us?

the head to head multiplayer competition version is a little different than you suggest Laser. it uses order/opposite designations (so template for your DFGen can be used) and same gates, timers & check gate notifications as practice versions. order pilot is assigned right start gate (finishing left), opposite to use left start gate (finish right). at start both the right & left start gates are activated at the same time. competitors run independent for first 6 six gates, merging at gate 7. distance from right start to gate 7 is about 900m shorter than left, but has the tight turn at gates 3 & 4. if both pilots get even start & run perfect, should be a slight stagger going into the shared gates. leader has right of way after gate 7.

used separate order/opposite designations from trigger check zone advanced properties to send gate check notice/deactivate at solo gates; both order/opposite designations plus a 2 counter at shared gates. first one through finish gate triggers win message & deactivates competitors finish trigger check zone.

could get messy but should be doable. what do you think?



Sounds pretty cool biggrin

(I was thinking that seeing all along the race where the competitor is - behind or in front - when going in parallel - should make me try to run even faster - like the rabbit following the carrot. And the intersections will add to excitement during the course. But that's for another race mission, in this one that you present you distribute the dosage differently - very exciting/risky at the beginning and at the end, and 'normal' in the middle, which is also 'kewl' smile ).

S!

Now, who can make the AI a worthy opponent biggrin in a race mission - i.e. make 'him' pass through the gates as fast as possible and without crashing too often ? This is a research theme in itself i guess smile


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#2886111 - 10/23/09 06:29 AM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: soda]
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Originally Posted By: soda
Gus! 4 planes on one course must be absolute mayhem!
Wounded ... any chance you guys could film a run for us?


I did record some of our last session. It'll be a while before I can sit down and get it compressed and up to youtube though.

So far, 4 planes doesn't seem like a problem at all. The first gate isn't active until the countdown, and not everyone times their descent to it in unison, so there's usually some separation between the racers at that point. Everyone is going all out, so relative positions don't change quickly (but they can if someone uses too much rudder for instance). At gate 17 (whatever the turn point is), I did have a near head-on with another racer, but he passed under the bridge on his right just before I did the same, so it was close.

It's fun and I've already had requests to add more aircraft. When I have a chance, I'll push it up to 6 and then 8 and we'll see how it goes.

FYI - in my conversion, the last gate message for plane 3 says something like "Plane 3 - final gate checked! Plane 1 wins!", but it's an error and needs to be corrected. The first one to pass through the last gate should still trigger the correct win message (in all caps).

Anyway, again, there are all kinds of things/objectives you can do with this.

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#2886416 - 10/23/09 12:52 PM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: Gustang]
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Managed to improve it a little. smile


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#2895561 - 11/06/09 01:52 AM Re: Meaux awarded inaugural Green Gate Air Racing event! [Re: Laser]
soda Offline
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Registered: 08/21/09
Posts: 55

GGAR course at Meaux has been opened for competition!
2 player head to head mission uploaded; Green Gate Air Racing Series ©
_________________________
'It was as good to go on as to go back, and it was never good to go
back before reaching one's objective. That was bad for the discipline
of the courage that is just beyond fear.'

Sir Philip Gibbs
Now it Can be Told. Harper & Brothers, 1920.


Na Kane Pono - Realism and Immersion

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