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#2886211 - 10/23/09 11:20 AM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: PoleCat]
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Is it just me or is this CH vs Kitty debate looking alot like Rock-em Sock-em Robots! lol
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#2886232 - 10/23/09 11:45 AM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: PoleCat]
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I purchased a Uber 2NXT MODDED Cougar. I did not like it. I tried.. SO HARD I tried to like it after I spend the money I did. It just did not have the precision teh CH Setup had out of the box. If I had not used a CH prior I probly would have liked it. It did look cool as hell.

CH is not perfect but for precision and durability it is second to none from my experience. So the kitty has been sold and teh CH is back on the desk.
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#2886273 - 10/23/09 12:31 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: LoyalNine]
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Funny about this eternal "What is the best HOTAS" (a hardware) question around forums is every time end in "the best software" discussion. hahaha

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#2886278 - 10/23/09 12:35 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: LoyalNine]
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Ladies and Germs, the thing I like (and dislike) about simmers is how passionate and opinionated we are. I count myself in there as well.

We each have our own perceptions, our own biases, our own opinions. That is as it should be. It doesn't make one "right" and the other "wrong". I don't mind sharing interests and those perceptions, but any animosity needs to be checked at the door.
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#2886304 - 10/23/09 01:07 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: 531 Ghost]
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Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Originally Posted By: zcaa0g

"Now can a CH user combine his controllers into one and program them without Control Manager installed? No."

Does this matter? No.


Depends on the sim wink

Back on topic...

What's the BEST HOTAS? Well, I've already got it IMO. But...


Hey Ghost, what I meant was who cares if the Control Manager is installed? It's not like it has any negative level of overhead and anyone who is going to buy a HOTAS setup isn't exactly going to operate it like it is a 2 button stick or something. smile

And being able to combine all of the controllers as a single device is one of many reasons why I went the CH Products route. I simply don't view having to have the CH Control Manager installed as being a negative.

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#2886353 - 10/23/09 02:15 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: 531 Ghost]
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Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
James, please, we both know the history of both softwares. And they both began with one man.


Ok let's clear something up here Ghost. You have no idea about the history of the softwares. So let me educate you. Fox 2, from which Foxy is ultimately derived began before I knew Bob. The work we did together subsequently was great fun and very educational for me. My history with TM controllers and the controller community predates what you and your ilk have become synonymous with. Why you continue to deride my work, or make comparisons when you've never used it, has me confused. It's not an intelligent thing to do, so why persist? If you're so impressed with the CH and its software, then let them sell themselves on their own merits. Why do you and the CH camp continue with this underhand and childish behaviour across the forums?

Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
But, be honest with yourself, has Foxy kept pace with Control Manager?


Kept pace? Are you joking me? I see you still have no clue as to what Foxy is and what the Control Manager is. You make comparisons with no experience or knowledge of Foxy but you continue to deride it. How can you make statements about Foxy with no knowledge of it? You and others still think Foxy defines the programmability of the Cougar. The features of Foxy and its applications are extensive. Go and see what it can do and you will see an extensive list of features absent in other software.

But best of all, just grow up and stop all of this crap once and for all.

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#2886358 - 10/23/09 02:18 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: Nutty]
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Hey guys... Can we stop the back and forth barbs here now? Not only is it bad form here, but it is pointless... CH and TM BOTH make excellent products. Some prefer one over the other. Others like both. Both companies are winners in my book. End of story.

Seriously, it's reminding me of the old Combatsim.com in here right about now...

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#2886360 - 10/23/09 02:23 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: Nutty]
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James, if you could answer my technical questions I think we all might gain a better understanding of the Foxy/Cougar combination. You've said multiple times in this thread that Foxy does not define the programmability of the Cougar. As zcaa0g said: "Does this matter? No." It doesn't, because everyone that's programming their Cougar uses Foxy (just like everyone that's using their CH hardware in its complicated form uses Control Manager).

So, why make statements like this without giving the readers of this thread any information about why you are making such statements? I'm trying to learn something and it's not working out very well.

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#2886372 - 10/23/09 02:38 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: Joe]
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I see my well intentioned advice got passed right over. You guys just cannot help but dig into each other.

My finger is hovering over the button on this thread. Prove me wrong and respond with civility.
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#2886417 - 10/23/09 03:52 PM Re: What is the best HOTAS you can buy? [Re: 20mm]
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Maybe as the OP i should have said "what is the preferred Hotas to us with BS" out of the 3 that i have already mentioned.

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