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#2882531 - 10/19/09 07:51 AM What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim?
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Guys this question is for rotor heads only so - people who like helicopter sims. copter

With the slew of new hotas been deployed or about to be deployed what type of stick is best suited for BS or any other Helicopter sim.
FFB or FS?

logitech =FFB

Saitek = FS and soon the Thrustmaster Hotas which I think may be FS could be wrong.

Which would you go for and why yes I know that the two FS Hotas have not hit the streets yet but just give me some feeb back as to which and why.


Edited by rapid (10/19/09 07:53 AM)

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#2882792 - 10/19/09 03:30 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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Its really a personal pref. I guess. Some will say CH, others Saitek and so on. Best to think of what you look for in a HOTAS and find one that meets those specs.

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#2882808 - 10/19/09 03:44 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: HitchHikingFlatlander]
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Two cents. Whatever you get, be sure and get pedals. Helo sims without pedals is not nearly as much fun.
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#2883006 - 10/19/09 11:17 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: guod]
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I already have Saitek X52 PRO, Saitek Flight Rudder Pedals, TrackIR Pro ver 4.
I was asking in regards to the new slew of HOTAS that are due and already released.

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#2883138 - 10/20/09 06:35 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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FFB, unless you're flying the Comanche.

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#2883213 - 10/20/09 08:06 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: AlphaOneSix]
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I take it this is only due to the Trim feature in BS?

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#2883294 - 10/20/09 09:32 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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Yep, although that's how trim works in pretty much all helicopters, so I'm hoping we'll see more of it in the future.

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#2883354 - 10/20/09 10:28 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: AlphaOneSix]
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Thanks AphaOnesix you have been most helpfull indeed.

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#2885514 - 10/22/09 11:30 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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If you can get hold of a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 you should be doing fine.
I use it because of BS control and trim system. It`s got rudder by twisting the stick and it works great.
Ì have CH HOTAS also, but I prefer FF2 for BS. I even bought a spare one because they`re hard to find over here. smile

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#2885669 - 10/22/09 02:17 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Norwegian]
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I has to be new tech all the way buddy.

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#2885730 - 10/22/09 03:38 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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Heh, nothing changed with the tech rapid.
Only thing is FF2 is way better than other force feedback in the market.
The response and feel of FF2 is far better than the competition.

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#2885959 - 10/23/09 12:28 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Norwegian]
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Hi Norwegian thanks for your reply.
I was told that the only FFB you will receive via a FFB stick is better trim function all other tactile feeling will not be present.
You are correct about Microsoft they did make a better FFB stick but in regards to a new HOTAS set up you have to be looking to the new genaration that are out right now.
Logitech have the latest FFB HOTAS out right now. Saitek and TM looks like they will be going over to Force Sensing.
The G940 will give you better trim and thats it no other sensation. As for FS Helicopters dont have force sensing cyclics.
So my point here is which way will people be going on this.

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#2886186 - 10/23/09 07:58 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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You`re right rapid.
I forgot that Logitec released the new HOTAS. duh

Must realign my brain cell. smile

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#2887047 - 10/24/09 12:48 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Norwegian]
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Well for my two cents I am using microsoft sidewinder ; Ch gameport pedals (Plugged into my old Soundblaster) ; And a wiimote as my collective in conjunction with PPJoy and glovepie.

Works for me biggrin

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#2888023 - 10/26/09 06:28 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: BaLrOg]
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is anyone here using the new Logitech setup with Black Shark? I'm looking to replace my dying/flaky X45 setup and I'm thinking either the Logitech or a CH setup.
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#2889333 - 10/28/09 12:30 AM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Clydewinder]
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I should have my Logitech G940 delivered today, will be testing/playing with it over the next few days.
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#2890653 - 10/29/09 06:13 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Paradaz]
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What is the difference between FFB and FS? I mean, what happens in game? What is the difference in what your hands feel?
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#2890759 - 10/29/09 11:45 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: Plainsman]
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FFB = Force FEED Back if the game supports it you will feel movement as you turn stall ect....

FS = Force Sensing = stick does not really move at all although very slightly, you feel no sensation at all, the stick will sense the pressure that you apply to it and will transer that pressure into movement for your aircraft.

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#2891288 - 10/30/09 03:00 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: rapid]
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For BS with its dynamic trim system I'd go with FF, my MSFF2 works great with BS and the new Rise of Flight WW1 sim.
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#2891404 - 10/30/09 07:07 PM Re: What is the better HOTAS for Black Shark or any Helo Sim? [Re: HitchHikingFlatlander]
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Originally Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander
Its really a personal pref. I guess. Some will say CH, others Saitek and so on. Best to think of what you look for in a HOTAS and find one that meets those specs.


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