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#2881991 - 10/18/09 08:05 AM Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
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thx to www.worthplaying.com for the news...

Big mistake IMO:

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'Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2' (ALL) Not Delayed on PC, No Dedicated Server Or Mod Support

Modern Warfare 2 continues the gripping and heart-racing saga with an unprecedented level of action as players face off against a new threat dedicated to bringing the world to the brink of collapse. While a few weeks ago an unconfirmed report claimed the PC version would be delayed, Infinity War's Rob bowling confirmed today that this is not the case. However, in a recent podcast he also revealed (at the 1:41 mark) that the PC version will not have dedicated servers, nor will it support user created mods like the original.

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#2882043 - 10/18/09 09:40 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Magnum]
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Saw that over at TotalCOD site.

Not sure I like the sound of this. Do you understand what this means, Magnum?

I am not very PC savy, and don't understand how you and I would play a game together, on-line without a dedicated server? How do we connect?

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#2882068 - 10/18/09 10:40 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Kingkat]
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With no dedicated server support, you would connect peer to peer (to another player's PC) or through Activision's game servers. It eliminates the persistent 24/7 game servers run by the community.
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#2882071 - 10/18/09 10:45 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Kingkat]
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It means some buttheads are making business decisions.
there, translated from sailoreeze to forum acceptable language
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#2882073 - 10/18/09 10:49 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: sSnakeyes]
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Originally Posted By: sSnakeyes
With no dedicated server support, you would connect peer to peer (to another player's PC) or through Activision's game servers. It eliminates the persistent 24/7 game servers run by the community.
Not surprised, they're doing everything they can in a hope to reduce chances of piracy etc, I'm just waiting to hear the announcement that MW2 will not have LAN support.

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#2882097 - 10/18/09 11:41 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Gargantou]
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Great. Codemasters shaft the PC gamers and now Activision follow suit. 10 years from now will there even be new games on the PC?
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#2882253 - 10/18/09 04:45 PM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: MaceUK33]
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Dedicated server software requires additional coding, expense and effort. You know, like the printed manuals we used-to-get with sims that are PDF now. Seriously, I'm thinking dedicated server software is an endangered species in all but premium content. Wonder how long it will be before we see a Multiplayer Ultimate version that includes dedicated server software, and costs $15 more than the standard version.
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#2882345 - 10/18/09 08:44 PM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Gargantou]
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Originally Posted By: Gargantou
Originally Posted By: sSnakeyes
With no dedicated server support, you would connect peer to peer (to another player's PC) or through Activision's game servers. It eliminates the persistent 24/7 game servers run by the community.
Not surprised, they're doing everything they can in a hope to reduce chances of piracy etc, I'm just waiting to hear the announcement that MW2 will not have LAN support.


I would kinda expect the opposite, you know, that ripping out dedicated server support would be a boost for piracy. I think a lot of multiplayer games phone home to a master server database to fetch server info and populate a multiplayer game list, during which time a CD key check can be done. Yeah, it can be bypassed, but doing so means you usually can't play on legitimate servers, and I don't think cracked servers are ever very popular.

So, without dedicated server support, that means I can't buy a game and get a server set up for my buddies to enjoy privately. For me, that in turn means I'm less likely to try the multiplayer at all; I want a central meeting area that I can control and configure as I want. So, hypothetically, why pay for a game that I'll primarily use for singleplayer, when that area of the game is the easiest and most frequently cracked? In other words, when you buy a game, what you are getting over a cracked version is the multiplayer. Without the multiplayer there is no practical difference between a cracked copy and a legitimate copy.
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#2882423 - 10/19/09 02:24 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: fatty]
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Originally Posted By: fatty
Originally Posted By: Gargantou
Originally Posted By: sSnakeyes
With no dedicated server support, you would connect peer to peer (to another player's PC) or through Activision's game servers. It eliminates the persistent 24/7 game servers run by the community.
Not surprised, they're doing everything they can in a hope to reduce chances of piracy etc, I'm just waiting to hear the announcement that MW2 will not have LAN support.


I would kinda expect the opposite, you know, that ripping out dedicated server support would be a boost for piracy. I think a lot of multiplayer games phone home to a master server database to fetch server info and populate a multiplayer game list, during which time a CD key check can be done. Yeah, it can be bypassed, but doing so means you usually can't play on legitimate servers, and I don't think cracked servers are ever very popular.

So, without dedicated server support, that means I can't buy a game and get a server set up for my buddies to enjoy privately. For me, that in turn means I'm less likely to try the multiplayer at all; I want a central meeting area that I can control and configure as I want. So, hypothetically, why pay for a game that I'll primarily use for singleplayer, when that area of the game is the easiest and most frequently cracked? In other words, when you buy a game, what you are getting over a cracked version is the multiplayer. Without the multiplayer there is no practical difference between a cracked copy and a legitimate copy.
Indeed it will IMO be a boost for piracy, just like ripping LAN support out of Starcraft 2, a game which is widely played at LANs etc, will increase the number of people who pirate it.

But apparently the corporate morons at the top believe that by removing features in the originals, MORE people will buy the sequels apparently.

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#2882496 - 10/19/09 06:38 AM Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2... [Re: Gargantou]
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Thanks for the info............its what I was afraid of.

Kinda makes a decision for me about what games I am likely NOT to buy in the near future!!!!!


I may join the crowds and cancel my pre-order too!

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