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#2887168 - 10/24/09 04:48 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: MaceUK33]
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When I got my first console I HATED using the controller for anything other than sports titles. In fact, the only reason I bought the console was for sports games. FPS games take some getting used to with a controller (and it may be more than 3 weeks for some people) but eventually you DO get used to it. NO ONE on the planet was more dead set against using a gamepad for FPS games than I was. I mean, I was absolutely adamant about it. But, over time, I got used to it and now it's second nature.
I don't think I'll ever game on a PC like I used to back in the "good ol' days". Sure, I'd still rather have a mouse and keyboard but I really don't miss it.
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#2887354 - 10/25/09 03:29 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: Paradaz]
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Quite frankly, anyone who doesn't understand the problem with not having dedicated servers obviously doesn't understand the networking behind it and the benefits it gives.
Whilst a lot of people will claim their own individual enjoyment will not diminish, there are probably more who say it will.....there are also a lot of people who will only realise how good dedicated servers are when they don't have it.....and then the penny will drop. Same but I'm still not sure about buying a new PC, I mean most if not all games come to either the PS3 or the 360 as well these days, and buying a new gaming PC for just like ten or so games that's coming out in 2010 just doesn't seem worth it. If I won the lottery though, daaaamn dude, I'd buy myself one of those super-rigs from Alienware for 60 grand.*Dreams*
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#2887429 - 10/25/09 06:54 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: FlyRetired]
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FlyRetired,
This action may not effect you and the console users, but it does effect millions of PC players very negatively. Players who have bought these games, developed communities around them, dramatically improved the games, are now being asked in our terms to go back to the stoneage in gaming.
They knew their actions would be very detrimental to millions in their loyal base and they hid them to the very last, letting hundreds of thousands of people pre-order and set up dedicated servers etc., then at the last minute dropping this bombshell on what were there loyal customers.
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#2887436 - 10/25/09 07:02 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: FlyRetired]
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FlyRetired,
The thing is consoles do not provide near the same quality and experience of MP in these type of games that you can get through the PC, dedicated servers, mods, clans, squads, tournaments, etc.
They want PC Gamers to go back several generations of gaming to something much more basic. I am just not willing to go backwards that far and keep paying the money that I do. If this takes over PC Gaming, I am truly out of it.
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#2887502 - 10/25/09 09:08 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: FLGibsonJr]
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I do have sympathy for those who are in clans and meet regularly on their own servers.
It'll be interesting to note the MW2 sales figures overall, and would be worth a study of the copies sold comparing MW and MW2 at certain intervals.
I'd guess the calculations about the bottom line, always depend on the bottom line.
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#2887685 - 10/25/09 02:23 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: FlyRetired]
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Interesting to see the competition react. EA/Dice is out there saying they would not treat the gaming community like Activision/IW, so perhaps this attack by Activision/IW will get us better support for upcoming PC Battlefield games.
Whatever the case, it seems that PC Gaming will depend on non-US based companies in the future. The US based companies on the most part are making console games and porting them over to PC, which in the end gets you a sub-standard PC game. Most of the exciting PC Games are coming from overseas.
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#2887717 - 10/25/09 03:28 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: FLGibsonJr]
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Interesting to see the competition react. EA/Dice is out there saying they would not treat the gaming community like Activision/IW, so perhaps this attack by Activision/IW will get us better support for upcoming PC Battlefield games.
Whatever the case, it seems that PC Gaming will depend on non-US based companies in the future. The US based companies on the most part are making console games and porting them over to PC, which in the end gets you a sub-standard PC game. Most of the exciting PC Games are coming from overseas.
Regards, Yeah right, when EA/Dice release BF1943 on consoles first... Comes to something when EA are saying the customers are being treated badly lol 
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#2888042 - 10/26/09 07:02 AM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: MaceUK33]
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Interesting to see the competition react. EA/Dice is out there saying they would not treat the gaming community like Activision/IW, so perhaps this attack by Activision/IW will get us better support for upcoming PC Battlefield games.
Whatever the case, it seems that PC Gaming will depend on non-US based companies in the future. The US based companies on the most part are making console games and porting them over to PC, which in the end gets you a sub-standard PC game. Most of the exciting PC Games are coming from overseas.
Regards, Yeah right, when EA/Dice release BF1943 on consoles first... Comes to something when EA are saying the customers are being treated badly lol  What does BF1943 being released first on the consoles have to do with anything? It's a smart business decision, and BF1943 isn't like a sequel or anything, it's a pretty small game. FYI, Battlefield 3 is in fact being developed for PC first and foremost, I'm well aware that it hasn't been announced but when you live in the same city as DICE Sweden, and am a big gaming fan and know people, you hear quite a few things. Activision-Blizzard is far worse than EA these days, EA have actually done a lot of quality titles recently IMO, Dead Space comes to mind as one of my top-favorites. And if you dislike EA for making BF1943 for consoles first, then you obviously either do not understand how our capitalist society works, or do not like capitalism. EA is in the end a company like any other, with its main goal being keeping the company alive and well, and generating enough money to fund the development of new products, considering there's a far more substantial gamerbase on consoles these days than on PC, it makes perfect sense to prioritize making the console version first, then making a PC version. And EA seems to try to take the route of rather than simply porting the console version ala Activision, they're actually making each version custom-tailored to each platform, for example the PC version of Dragon Age: Origins is very different from the console versions.
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#2888310 - 10/26/09 12:30 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: Gargantou]
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Interesting to see the competition react. EA/Dice is out there saying they would not treat the gaming community like Activision/IW, so perhaps this attack by Activision/IW will get us better support for upcoming PC Battlefield games.
Whatever the case, it seems that PC Gaming will depend on non-US based companies in the future. The US based companies on the most part are making console games and porting them over to PC, which in the end gets you a sub-standard PC game. Most of the exciting PC Games are coming from overseas.
Regards, Yeah right, when EA/Dice release BF1943 on consoles first... Comes to something when EA are saying the customers are being treated badly lol  What does BF1943 being released first on the consoles have to do with anything? Well, pal, it has to do with my point of games publishers making games for consoles and then porting them across to PC....to do with PC taking a back seat to consoles....to do with I can have my opinion and say what the hell I like, called freedom of speech. Or maybe you dont understand how our democratic society works, or do not like democracy. I don't give toss about sound business decisions I only care about having to take the crumbs from the consoles table which I am sick of saying and really am tired of this debate and am going to have to accept the innevitable. And by the way do you work for DICE? Because you certainly sound like you do.
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#2888451 - 10/26/09 04:05 PM
Re: Activision, what idiots... CoD MW2...
[Re: MaceUK33]
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You know, I've played the COD series from the beginning because they're lots of fun.
I wouldn't argue about them being realistic, or for using proper tactics in them.
Should I be considered a console-minded zombie because I look forward to playing MW or WAW today just for the "action". I think not, I don't own a console.
I don't really get how people see the COD games being anything other than a great looking series, rich in cinematics, and with fast-paced shooter action, which has shown to be a very successful retail game formula.
As far as I can tell, the COD formula sounds like it works just fine for guys playing the series on consoles too.
Maybe I haven't been taking my playtime in Call Of Duty serious enough, but then again, that's probably why I've had so much fun.
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