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#2876404 - 10/09/09 07:02 AM
Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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From the Mad Otter Games website: "We are pleased to be partnered with GOG.com in bringing back the Red Baron series. With three of the otters being part of the original project, Red Baron is very near and dear to our hearts, and we hope you enjoy playing this timeless classic. Get Red Baron I, Red Baron: Mission Builder, and Red Baron 3D all for $9.99; DRM-free and XP/Vista compatible." http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/red_baron_pack
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#2876686 - 10/09/09 12:43 PM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
[Re: ArgonV]
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I wonder if it comes with a Glide wrapper.
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#2877542 - 10/10/09 08:51 PM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
[Re: dutch]
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You realize the wrappers are free, right? It is very very simple and quick to download files on the internet. Here is a link to the latest dgVoodoo excellent wrapper: http://dege.freeweb.hu/
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#2878021 - 10/11/09 05:28 PM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
[Re: ArgonV]
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From the Mad Otter Games website: "We are pleased to be partnered with GOG.com in bringing back the Red Baron series. With three of the otters being part of the original project, Red Baron is very near and dear to our hearts, and we hope you enjoy playing this timeless classic. Get Red Baron I, Red Baron: Mission Builder, and Red Baron 3D all for $9.99; DRM-free and XP/Vista compatible." http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/red_baron_pack Question: What does this do to all the "free" versions floating around the internet?
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#2878279 - 10/12/09 07:01 AM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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He's referring to the Glide wrappers I mentioned, not the sim, Colonel!
RB3D used Glide for 3D acceleration, which of course went the way of the Voodoo Card Dodo Bird. Call it a betamax moment for the developers when they selected it instead of OpenGL.
The problem is that for a fully XP/Vista compatable version I'd think that they should have included a wrapper to convert the Glide stuff to OpenGL. One of the reasons RB3D isn't on my hard drive right now is the seeming inability for me as a person to get any of them to work or, shortly after getting it to work finding out that somehow I've corrupted my drivers and now the only thing that does play on my computer without crash is RB3D!
But I'm glad to see old girl back on the market.
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#2878317 - 10/12/09 07:54 AM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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The problem is that for a fully XP/Vista compatable version I'd think that they should have included a wrapper to convert the Glide stuff to OpenGL. One of the reasons RB3D isn't on my hard drive right now is the seeming inability for me as a person to get any of them to work or, shortly after getting it to work finding out that somehow I've corrupted my drivers and now the only thing that does play on my computer without crash is RB3D!
Dart, did you check this? http://www.wingsofhonour.com/redbaron3d/...ooglideemulatorEven if you knew dgvoodoo wrapper before, this one is improved (the beta2). It is based on DX9, it works with new graphic cards, and that version is specially tuned for no-graphic-corruption in RB3D, which means it can use more video ram so it's fast.
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#2878344 - 10/12/09 08:20 AM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
[Re: Dart]
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He's referring to the Glide wrappers I mentioned, not the sim, Colonel!
RB3D used Glide for 3D acceleration, which of course went the way of the Voodoo Card Dodo Bird. Call it a betamax moment for the developers when they selected it instead of OpenGL.
The problem is that for a fully XP/Vista compatable version I'd think that they should have included a wrapper to convert the Glide stuff to OpenGL. One of the reasons RB3D isn't on my hard drive right now is the seeming inability for me as a person to get any of them to work or, shortly after getting it to work finding out that somehow I've corrupted my drivers and now the only thing that does play on my computer without crash is RB3D!
But I'm glad to see old girl back on the market. No. I meant the "free" versions of RB3D floating around the internet.
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#2878350 - 10/12/09 08:25 AM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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Oh, you mean the pirated copies of RB3D.
Unsavory, to say the least.
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#2878485 - 10/12/09 12:26 PM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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Oh, you mean the pirated copies of RB3D.
Unsavory, to say the least. Exactly. There has been some gripping about RB3D being released again when, GOSH, you can download it for FREE!!!!. My point is that it was NEVER legally free and as with most "abandonware" people are pushing the outside of the legal envelope. I, for one, am very glad to see Mad Otter take a renewed interest in the sim. I find the DRM in ROF both offensive and unnecessary. First Eagles is OK but cannot match the campaign of RB. OFF3, well, just won't run on my rig and I can't afford the necessary upgrades. I have a Voodoo3 based system that runs RB3D + Hell's Angels just fine.
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#2879255 - 10/13/09 04:30 PM
Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d
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Hey, it's Flybert!  Very cool on them getting the source code! Indeed, if they had the 3D code they'd probably strip much of it out. Seems to me it would be easier to simply write OpenGL code from RBII than to have to work translations.
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