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#2878444 - 10/12/09 11:27 AM Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d [Re: ArgonV]
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Just like RB3d on the German site.

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#2878485 - 10/12/09 12:26 PM Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d [Re: Dart]
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Originally Posted By: Dart
Oh, you mean the pirated copies of RB3D.

Unsavory, to say the least.


Exactly. There has been some gripping about RB3D being released again when, GOSH, you can download it for FREE!!!!.

My point is that it was NEVER legally free and as with most "abandonware" people are pushing the outside of the legal envelope.

I, for one, am very glad to see Mad Otter take a renewed interest in the sim. I find the DRM in ROF both offensive and unnecessary. First Eagles is OK but cannot match the campaign of RB. OFF3, well, just won't run on my rig and I can't afford the necessary upgrades. I have a Voodoo3 based system that runs RB3D + Hell's Angels just fine.
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#2878840 - 10/13/09 03:34 AM Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d [Re: Colonel Kern]
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At some point, ftp.sierra.de had a public link to the RB2 german version, which could then be patched to obtain the english RB3D through various steps.
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#2879021 - 10/13/09 10:33 AM Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d [Re: Laser]
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Red Baron(I) was downloadable as a promo for RBII .. it sat on the Sierra.com ftp sites until Activition_Blizzard shout Sierra down

I might speak to the sites I know of that have it available .. one in particular is probably the most popular, and are friends, however I own the WebRing and have a resoncibility to ask members to remove such material .. I was already uncomfortable about it.

I think the GOG Pack may well bring 100s of new players to the community. Maybe a couple of 1000 will download .. GOG is a popular site and I think anything Damon gets to either re-issue RBII/3D with improvements, expansion and a modern graphics API, or to build a new RB title completely is a positive thing

For those that don't know .. Damon has *found* the Red Baron II source code, and other than the 3D Glide (which is a seperate "module"), fight model changes and the MMP setup. there is virtually no difference between RBII and RB3D

In fact, the RBII code he has still has the troops and guage bullet damage effects removed for framerate rate reasons in RB3D

many plane slots could be added . quite a bit could be done to expand the game .. probably AI gunners in MP .. the planned Zeppelin added in ..


Edited by Flybert (10/13/09 10:40 AM)

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#2879255 - 10/13/09 04:30 PM Re: Mad Otter Games releases WinXP/Vista compatible RB1 and RB3d [Re: Flybert]
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Hey, it's Flybert!

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Very cool on them getting the source code! Indeed, if they had the 3D code they'd probably strip much of it out. Seems to me it would be easier to simply write OpenGL code from RBII than to have to work translations.
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