...because of this I have been reading up on OFF. The game looks well done. The graphics look better then IL2 and the number of airplanes seems to match as well.

I want a WWI sim with great single player, a rewarding campaign, and is just a joy to fly.

Does OFF fit my needs?

I have both flight sims as well and I found RoF did not come close to my expectations either. I paid the full $50 for Over Flanders Fields Between Heaven and Hell when it first came out and I find the money was exceptionally well spent. Now it's down to $29.95 + about $10 for Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3 if you don't already own it. With the recent 1.32f Superpatch the game is being called a "classic" and I agree. If you want an immersive single player dynamic campaign, OFF is the flight sim with, in my opinion, the most options, variety and good old fashioned white knuckle flying.

Hellshade

Thats a big fat YES!

You'll love it.

BULL

A joy to fly? Absolutely. Best money I ever spent on a flight sim, and I've owned most of them. Very supportive community, too. If you have the PC muscle to run ROF, BHaH should run very well. BTW, I bought a backup copy of 2 CD version of CFS3 at Best Buy today for $9.95. If you can find one, buy the DVD version from Ubisoft (might be able to find one on E-Bay).

read this

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2841129/Finaly_ordered_OFF.html#Post2841129

Counterman,

"I want a WWI sim with great single player, a rewarding campaign, and is just a joy to fly."

Well, I find that the SP aspect is top notch - there's plenty of WWI to choose from! Campaigns are immensely well done: if you had RB3D, you'll find them to be much, much better. The only absences I can see from RB are the infamous kill board(s) and the ability to transfer squadrons, but that's pretty small beer. The rest is there in spades. It's a mixed pleasure to fly, from my POV: I love getting up there and doing my bit for King/Kaiser and country, however the AI is fearsome and I have an increasing stack of dead pilots festering under my desk. That's another difference to RB3D I forgot to mention.

I just wish I'd found out about OFF years ago, although I'm told that P1 and P2 versions weren't really the business. P3 is.

Yes it is great. I´ve had it for two weeks, still learning but enjoying it along the way. But it is hard. Really hard. Flown about 20 missions, got shot down every time Guess practice makes perfect. Or not...

Awesome guys! Thank you for your input, it's greatly appreciated. This thread right now has about 174 views so perhaps I wasn't the only one wondering this. I will swing into Best Buy later today and see if I can find a copy of CF3.

Ironside -

It's nice to hear you get shot down. I rarely get shot down in RoF due to a bandit on my tail, I alway die from flak or some insane deflection shot from 200m away that happens to nail me between the eyes.

"It's nice to hear you get shot down."

For me, it's a racing bleedin' certainty!

The campaign is excellent and provides a good WWI simulation. It is also fun and an excellent SP experience.

The quick missions in OFF3 are fun and I can actually see my bullet hits and I feel like I am really shooting. The OFF3 AI will kill and the AI fly well but the AI will "not" kill you with impossible snap shots to your engine or head all the time. I am beginning to conclude that the AI ROF bullet hits are just faked/forced/random and that each bullet is not really modeled (but I am not sure and I can not prove it). ROF developers will not answer any questions concerning what they have implemented.

OFF3 can be set up and played at you own personal taste with many options that have been carefully designed and implemented.

Last, the game is supported by the OFF3 developers. OFF3 questions are answered and the community is first rate and mature.

I think OFF3 will meet your WWI gaming/simulation requirements.

It is a shame about ROF not meeting our key expectations and our WWI simulation requirements but all the WWI and ROF PR has certainly seemed to helped OFF3 sales and interest which is a very good thing, IMHO.

I just love options as I think most players do as well.