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#2873037 - 10/04/09 09:23 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: matmilne]
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Hi Guys - strange how everyone gets their knickers in a twist over sims...
But I would like to say that Matt Milne is far from some 'magical poster' - he is in fact the man that composed, created and recorded the main music themes for OFF.... for free. He is a magical composer of note.
Matt thanks very much - great music - and have fun!
Pleased to see you are now into flight sims!
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OBD Software
Edited by Winding Man (10/04/09 09:24 AM)
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#2873040 - 10/04/09 09:31 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: Laser]
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Registered: 03/02/03
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Oh yes, i was bashing 'someone's' opinion - a specially created new account of 'someone's' who owns both RoF and OFF, is already an expert in this, and spreads lies in his first posts. That's what i saw already many times in this forum and in the RoF one. And that is what i am reacting. And i read the old OFF forums and the general praise only atmosphere was too dominant. Like everyone playing at violin to show visitors how good that stuff is. I am not saying new things here, but of course you see only what you want to see.
And if you'd follow my posts at ROF forums, i am one of those strongly against the 'online-only' protection scheme. But i can't care less about what you think of me.
Again, what i see on RoF forums, coming from OFF, are people trying to bash RoF and to vehemently announce that 'there is another good sim' which is OFF and why people don't see that. Yes, you are on a mission.
Sorry I see people from all over, RoF, OFF owners, and many who own both, commenting on what they think. If you think we control the forums by special secret squirrels then you are wrong. At least most people commenting own both (like myself). And a few like you, only own one.
Edited by Polovski (10/04/09 09:33 AM)
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#2873084 - 10/04/09 10:46 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: Polovski]
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Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 798
Loc: Where the ocean meets the sky
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Hello, well if we go back to post #1 ... "Extremely disapppinted with RoF ... because of this I have been reading up on OFF. The game looks well done. The graphics look better then IL2 and the number of airplanes seems to match as well. ..." The first poster with some 300+ posts did know what he was talking about or so i think. As well some complaints here do not target the initial poster, but someone else, so it all does not make too much sense. All i can say even if you own RoF you will not be disappointed with OFF. I'm the living example lol. From Pol: " ... you think we control the forums by special secret squirrels then you are wrong. ..." haha got you.  "You should have bought a squirrel" LOL Greetings, Catfish P.S. @Matt Milne: thanks for your well-thought answers, i do feel much better now regarding the (probably fading) DRM model. And you are perfectly right about what we in Europe call locust-capitalism. There seems to be no long-term thinkng, it has all been jettisoned as old-school, if you even dare to propose customer reaction at a board meeting you're instantly out. I know what i'm talking about. It always was money, but this "new deal #2" has gone to new dimensions.
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#2873169 - 10/04/09 01:09 PM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: Catfish]
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Registered: 08/02/04
Posts: 1679
Loc: California, USA
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I for one am glad I bought ROF and a couple of their planes, was one of the first to do so. It's just that there isn't much there to hold my attention for very long, so I don't play it much, OFF is much more interesting and engrossing, but that's just me. I know some love ROF, but they seem to be only into the flight simulation part, and don't have that much interest in the whole rest of what I think should be part of what makes up a really good simulation/game, it was what made RedBaron so successful and what Over Flanders Fields is also aiming at, and achieving, and very well.
There are obviously a lot of disappointed buyers and potential buyers of ROF who were expecting a lot more and feel that they haven't come though and that their methods are unclear, confusing and uncertain, hence, the complaints and discussions. I still think that most would love to see them offer as much as OFF does, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen, or that it will take a long, long time, if ever.
My two cents, again.
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#2873277 - 10/04/09 05:15 PM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: Winding Man]
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Registered: 07/16/09
Posts: 141
Loc: Portugal
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But I would like to say that Matt Milne is far from some 'magical poster' - he is in fact the man that composed, created and recorded the main music themes for OFF.... for free. He is a magical composer of note.
Matt thanks very much - great music - and have fun!
Great to know that. I've to say something about Matt's musical theme. It's one of the most fantastic and well achieved musical game themes I've ever heard. (PERIOD) When I launched the game for the first time, and heard the theme, I had just had to listen the all theme until the end, before doing anything else. I'm sure you are a professional composer. I bet OFF team are very proud to have you for producing their main themes. I would.
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#2873536 - 10/05/09 06:27 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: VonPaulus]
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Locust Capitalism? So do I have to be a communist to like OFF, or is that optional?
Bashing RoF in order to elevate OFF. Tsk, tsk, guys.
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#2873546 - 10/05/09 06:40 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: Dart]
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Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 210
Loc: North of England
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I suspect that there are more than a small number of ROFers who've come to try OFF on the basis that ROF (in its present state) does not deliver what they wanted or expected. I'd further guess that many were hoping that ROF would be a true successor to the venerable RB3D, so it's quite understandable that they might find their way to OFF on that basis alone.
From what I've read on SimHQ threads, the most pungent comments about ROF do come from dissatisfied owners of the game, so it hardly seems the case that it's OFF owners trying to big up OFF by denigrating ROF. You only have to look at ROF fora here to see that there's serious misgivings about ROF, coming from ROFers.
Edited by SimonC (10/05/09 06:42 AM)
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#2873555 - 10/05/09 06:53 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: SimonC]
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Registered: 04/17/06
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Well the world's not prohesied to end until 2012 this time, so the ROF developers might still have a bit of time to bring along their ideas (can't really stop that until doomsday that is).
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#2873557 - 10/05/09 06:55 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: FlyRetired]
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Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 210
Loc: North of England
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"Well the world's not prohesied to end until 2012 this time, so the ROF developers might still have a bit of time to bring along their ideas."
Indeed, and I wish them luck in bringing their creation to its full fruition, but there's clearly a body of players whose patience is apparently already exhausted.
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#2873566 - 10/05/09 07:03 AM
Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF...
[Re: SimonC]
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Registered: 04/17/06
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Maybe Neoqb is considering moving forward with only 30,000 players? But "exhausted", that's a thought, though I doubt posters here on SimHQ ever get exhausted. 
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