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#2871748 - 10/02/09 07:39 AM 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting
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Hello gents,

On behalf of Daidalos Team, I would like to thank you for your support and patience while we have been finalizing 4.09 patch. We hope you will have as much fun playing with it as much we have enjoyed working on it.

Even though we have dedicated several months to internal and external beta-testing, it is possible that we might not have been able to identify all issues. Thus, we would like to ask IL-2 community for a feedback related to 4.09 content only. If you find any suspicious issue/bug, please report it in this thread, ideally backed with some hard evidence (screenshots, tracks, etc.). In order to report only those things that are not known to us, please read the PDF Guide first.

We are committed to look at each of the problems and try to fix it in our future release.

Thank you.

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#2871874 - 10/02/09 09:54 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Martin]
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#2871909 - 10/02/09 10:29 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: guod]
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First, thank you to all involved in this project.

1.Slovakia winter map = hard water.




2.On Slovakia winter and summer QMB Scramble mission the SM 79 spawns in hanger and breaks in half.
SM79 spawns fine on other maps outside hanger.

Tried with JU88, similar size, all is well, other planes ok.


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#2872009 - 10/02/09 12:54 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Sunchaser]
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Slovakia summer map quick mission - if you select "Axis" and mission type "Scramble," you start out on an Allied airfield and get torn to pieces by unfriendly flak.


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#2872145 - 10/02/09 05:11 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: akdavis]
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nforce chipset motherboards (a7n8x) require the mg_snd*.* files from 4.08m; otherwise, game does not start.

Possibly affects all similar configurations using older on-board sound.
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#2872568 - 10/03/09 10:46 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Tolwyn]
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Hmmmm.... had a no cd crack on 4.08. Now it loads up to 60% and quits...back to windows.

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#2872624 - 10/03/09 12:19 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Sitting Duck]
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Did you install the official 4.09m patch on a clean -unmodded- game? That load failure at 60% is quite common with a messed up mod installation...

And BTW Team Daidalos, why did you bring back SecureRom, the requirement to have the game disk in the tray? I thought we were well and truly beyond that silliness with IL-2.
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#2872627 - 10/03/09 12:24 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Tolwyn]
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Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
nforce chipset motherboards (a7n8x) require the mg_snd*.* files from 4.08m; otherwise, game does not start.

Possibly affects all similar configurations using older on-board sound.


Can confirm this impacts my rig. I use an old KT400-based mobo (A7V8X) and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz PCI sound card. With a clean 1946 DVD install and then patched to 4.08m and then 4.09m the game just does not start. I get the little CD-type icon, then nothing, and il2fb.exe disappears from task manager.

Replacing the versions of mg_snd.dll and mg_snd_sse.dll installed with 4.09m with the 4.08m versions, as suggested above, gets everything working again.



Edited by iriches (10/03/09 12:25 PM)

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#2872638 - 10/03/09 12:48 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: WWSandMan]
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Originally Posted By: WWSandMan

And BTW Team Daidalos, why did you bring back SecureRom, the requirement to have the game disk in the tray? I thought we were well and truly beyond that silliness with IL-2.


Ahhm... we didn't.
The patch was compiled from all our content by OM's team.
And there wasn't any security stuff in our content (we don't have even a clue about such things).
On the other side I doubt, that Oleg did include something like that in the patch.
So I just suppose you made a clean install from DVD/CD, which brings naturally the Securom stuff with it. You need to exchange the necessary files as you did before and you are good to go.


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#2872646 - 10/03/09 01:06 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: EJGr.Ost_Caspar]
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I believe Caspar is correct.

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#2872669 - 10/03/09 02:01 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: iriches]
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Originally Posted By: iriches
Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
nforce chipset motherboards (a7n8x) require the mg_snd*.* files from 4.08m; otherwise, game does not start.

Possibly affects all similar configurations using older on-board sound.


Can confirm this impacts my rig. I use an old KT400-based mobo (A7V8X) and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz PCI sound card. With a clean 1946 DVD install and then patched to 4.08m and then 4.09m the game just does not start. I get the little CD-type icon, then nothing, and il2fb.exe disappears from task manager.

Replacing the versions of mg_snd.dll and mg_snd_sse.dll installed with 4.09m with the 4.08m versions, as suggested above, gets everything working again.



I have the old A7N8X2.0, had to do the same. Worked soon as I replaced the files.

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#2872681 - 10/03/09 02:39 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: JG7_ME262U1]
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Many thanks Daidalos Team and all for this great patch. I wondered if anyone has experienced sound distortion since patching? I'm working with a clean 4.08m installed patched to 4.09m. It may be something else - just chcking in before I do more drastic troubleshooting.





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#2872697 - 10/03/09 03:05 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: WWMirage]
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Hi WWMirage, I'm having engine sound distortion when switching from outside view to cockpit view. I don't remember ever having this issue on previous patches so I'm not quite sure where to start looking if it is a setting not a bug. If it isn't a bug and you find how to fix it I'd be interested in finding out how.

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#2872698 - 10/03/09 03:08 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: WWSandMan]
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Originally Posted By: WWSandMan
And BTW Team Daidalos, why did you bring back SecureRom, the requirement to have the game disk in the tray? I thought we were well and truly beyond that silliness with IL-2.


I do not have to have the disk in.
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#2872707 - 10/03/09 03:32 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Martin]
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I don't think this is a bug exclusive to 4.09m, but I will report it anyway.

Take a P-38 up high and you will notice that the contrails for this plane are not appearing DIRECTLY behind it like other planes. The contrails are actually appearing ABOVE and behind the plane.

I have screenshots if you would like to see them. Obviously, this is in a totally unmodded 4.09m.

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#2872749 - 10/03/09 04:32 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: EJGr.Ost_Caspar]
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Originally Posted By: EJGr.Ost_Caspar
... So I just suppose you made a clean install from DVD/CD, which brings naturally the Securom stuff with it.


Ahh... Yes, I made a clean install without altering anything. Welcome back SecureRom. :p

Originally Posted By: EJGr.Ost_Caspar
You need to exchange the necessary files as you did before and you are good to go.


duh

Okay, thanks... Need to search the archives to figure out what I did before. It's been *that* long, I have no idea how I got it working without the (stuff) before.

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To keep this on track, sort of, did the 4.09m patch alter any existing single-player missions? I ask because I flew one at random to test various settings with the new installation I made and came across a strange occurrence.

Single Player -> Luftwaffe -> Me-262HG-II -> 'Armada from the East' mission

My virtual self got himself head-shot, but my aircraft was trimmed up enough to fly on without me (nothing too odd there). Eventually my aircraft slammed into the ground ... and bounced right back into the air again, and gained speed. After a while the flaming ball was moving over 1000kph (at one point 1400kph), repeatedly hitting the ground and bouncing back as if it were indestructable. Which made me look at the difficulty settings to be sure that my aircraft could indeed be destroyed. Yes, the difficulty settings were properly set. Perhaps that's an old issue with the Kiev map (I know that map has various issues associated with it)... if so, I apologize for taking your time. smile

Oh, I do appreciate the fact the AA gunners no longer shoot at parachutists. I always found that to be rather rude of them.
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#2872786 - 10/03/09 05:44 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Martin]
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Hi all, hope this is'nt rehashing over "stuff" already discussed. Anyway, I just installed the new 409m patch over an unmodded, fresh install and the following happens when I try to start the game. The game seems to start normally, shows the loading screen, laods to 5% and then crashes to windows. Any help available or ideas?
I'm running windows xp, Ati 4850, Pentium 4,3.6 ghz, pretty much run of the mill.
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#2872800 - 10/03/09 06:32 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Bud215]
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Bud215, the same problem happens with me. I installed over the un-modded 409 beta. Running Windows Vista on my notebook with an Intel T5450 1.66 GHz core duo. Loads to 5% then drops back to the desktop.

Update: Un-installed 4.09 beta, re-installed 1946 off the DVD, then the 4.09 patch - same result as above.

OK, I worked it out. Some of you others might have hit the same snag as me, so here goes:

My 1946 DVD is version 4.07 which won't take the 4.09 patch directly- you have to install the 4.08 patch, then the 4.09 full patch will install with no problems. Hope this helps anyone else who, like me, must have been a blond in a previous life.
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#2873343 - 10/04/09 08:29 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: FltLt HardBall]
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Hmmm. wink
Certain Scramble missions with Lerche aircraft don't seem to work that great. wink
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#2873382 - 10/04/09 11:09 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Tolwyn]
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Hmmm. wink
Certain Scramble missions with Lerche aircraft don't seem to work that great. wink

So I don't spend hours looking..
Which ones ?


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#2873803 - 10/05/09 01:46 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
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Anyone where you start inside a hangar (Slovakia, I believe).

If your flight >1, then your poor hapless AI plane will lift off into the rafters.

Lerche takes off straight up. So, any QMB mission where your (or they) start in a hangar... well...
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#2873941 - 10/05/09 06:35 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Tolwyn]
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Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
Anyone where you start inside a hangar (Slovakia, I believe).

If your flight >1, then your poor hapless AI plane will lift off into the rafters.

Lerche takes off straight up. So, any QMB mission where your (or they) start in a hangar... well...


Aaah, I see what you mean. That will be a problem.


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#2873962 - 10/05/09 07:20 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
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I just noticed this today while flying the JU-88.

4.08





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#2874141 - 10/06/09 04:01 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: JG7_ME262U1]
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Me262, are you sure you are not in the "gunsight" view in one picture and in "cockpit" view in the second one?

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#2874325 - 10/06/09 10:11 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Martin]
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I'm pretty sure in cockpit view, but I will try it again.
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#2874915 - 10/07/09 08:28 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: FltLt HardBall]
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My 1946 DVD is version 4.07 which won't take the 4.09 patch directly- you have to install the 4.08 patch, then the 4.09 full patch will install with no problems. Hope this helps anyone else who, like me, must have been a blond in a previous life.


That wouldn't be an issue if the IL-2 patches got with the program and were EXE installers like what every other PC game publisher uses. That way if you try to run a patch on an install that is missing a prerequisite version it will give you an error message and wont proceed.
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#2875128 - 10/07/09 01:31 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Geeze, Panzer. I actually prefer IL2's way of patching.

Round up the new files and archive 'em, post 'em.

Nothing fancy, no registry requirements, etc.

Just gotta be smarter than the average bear, I guess.
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#2875227 - 10/07/09 03:59 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Tolwyn]
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Originally Posted By: Tolwyn

Just gotta be smarter than the average bear, I guess.


Having the IQ requirement is not an issue for me but if something can be made to run and process faster and more convenient then why not? smile
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#2875382 - 10/07/09 08:02 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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My max framerate is lower. I'm NOT using the new clouds or increased landscape distance either... Water is set to 2. Using 2x FSAA and 2x Anisotropy filtering. Running in OpenGL on Perfect mode. I have side-by-side installs of 4.09m and a 4.08m of IL-2: 1946. With 4.08m I'm getting 15-20 fps more in the Black Death track for the max frame rate (85 being max as I use v-sync and play at 1280x960). In 4.09m the highest I get is 60ish, with the exact same settings as the 4.08m install.

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#2875431 - 10/07/09 09:24 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: ArgonV]
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ArgonV,

At first I was also curious but I have not seen any frame rate difference. In fact, I just did a Black Death test and 4.09 actually was a tiny bit faster:

4.08m: Average 123 FPS
4.09m: Average 127 FPS

Both graphics settings were the same as well as the conf settings.

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#2890282 - 10/29/09 09:07 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Aviar]
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How does one choose a "Scramble" mission from the QMB? I can't seem to notice any options for that in the QMB.
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#2890326 - 10/29/09 10:22 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: 2GvSAP_Mohawk]
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Originally Posted By: 2GvSAP_Mohawk
How does one choose a "Scramble" mission from the QMB? I can't seem to notice any options for that in the QMB.


It is under "target".
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#2890331 - 10/29/09 10:32 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: akdavis]
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How does one choose a "Scramble" mission from the QMB? I can't seem to notice any options for that in the QMB.


It is under "target".


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#2890345 - 10/29/09 10:41 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: 2GvSAP_Mohawk]
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Originally Posted By: akdavis
Originally Posted By: 2GvSAP_Mohawk
How does one choose a "Scramble" mission from the QMB? I can't seem to notice any options for that in the QMB.


It is under "target".


Do'h! duh

Thanks akdavis.

Don't feel bad.
It took me a while to find it too.


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#2901935 - 11/16/09 09:55 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
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Greetings all,

I guess I must be the only one who is experiencing this, since I haven't seen any posts about it.

I'm having a devil of a time with v4.09m. I'm running in XP, IL2-1946, BoE and Ostfront. I have the latest EnjoyR patch installed. I consistently get an error msg at the end of missions. The box pops up stating "Dgen.exe has encountered a problem....". Sometimes that's the extent of it, but most times when I go back to that pilot's career to fly a new mission, the briefing screen in blank...no map, info etc...I end up having to delete that pilot and start over.

At first I thought I might have a corrupted file somewhere, but I have uninstalled and reinstalled the sim four times and it dosen't make any difference.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Scott
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#2903867 - 11/18/09 06:40 PM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: flieger701]
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Anyone out there....????
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#2904997 - Yesterday at 11:38 AM Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: flieger701]
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Flieger701

Are you by any chance using AVG Free 9.0? I had the same DGen problems after installing AVG Free 9.0.

Uninstalled AVG 9.0 and replaced with Microsoft Essentials (also free) - back to normal.

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#2905559 - 4 minutes 46 seconds ago Re: 4.09 - Support & Bug Reporting [Re: Ramone43]
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Hi Ramone43,

Thanks for the reply and yes, I'm using AVG9.0. Actually I ran across this solution yesterday in the Mission4today IL2 forums. What I did was list my UBI folder in the AVG Resident Directoy Excludes and my DGEN.exe in the Excluded files section of the Resident Directory Excludes. Flew 4 missions last night without any problems...keeping my fingers crossed.

Cheers,
Scott
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