Hello gents,

On behalf of Daidalos Team, I would like to thank you for your support and patience while we have been finalizing 4.09 patch. We hope you will have as much fun playing with it as much we have enjoyed working on it.

Even though we have dedicated several months to internal and external beta-testing, it is possible that we might not have been able to identify all issues. Thus, we would like to ask IL-2 community for a feedback related to 4.09 content only. If you find any suspicious issue/bug, please report it in this thread, ideally backed with some hard evidence (screenshots, tracks, etc.). In order to report only those things that are not known to us, please read the PDF Guide first.

We are committed to look at each of the problems and try to fix it in our future release.

Thank you.

Daidalos Team.

Stickied.

First, thank you to all involved in this project.

1.Slovakia winter map = hard water.




2.On Slovakia winter and summer QMB Scramble mission the SM 79 spawns in hanger and breaks in half.
SM79 spawns fine on other maps outside hanger.

Tried with JU88, similar size, all is well, other planes ok.

Slovakia summer map quick mission - if you select "Axis" and mission type "Scramble," you start out on an Allied airfield and get torn to pieces by unfriendly flak.

nforce chipset motherboards (a7n8x) require the mg_snd*.* files from 4.08m; otherwise, game does not start.

Possibly affects all similar configurations using older on-board sound.

Hmmmm.... had a no cd crack on 4.08. Now it loads up to 60% and quits...back to windows.

Did you install the official 4.09m patch on a clean -unmodded- game? That load failure at 60% is quite common with a messed up mod installation...

And BTW Team Daidalos, why did you bring back SecureRom, the requirement to have the game disk in the tray? I thought we were well and truly beyond that silliness with IL-2.

Can confirm this impacts my rig. I use an old KT400-based mobo (A7V8X) and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz PCI sound card. With a clean 1946 DVD install and then patched to 4.08m and then 4.09m the game just does not start. I get the little CD-type icon, then nothing, and il2fb.exe disappears from task manager.

Replacing the versions of mg_snd.dll and mg_snd_sse.dll installed with 4.09m with the 4.08m versions, as suggested above, gets everything working again.

Ahhm... we didn't.
The patch was compiled from all our content by OM's team.
And there wasn't any security stuff in our content (we don't have even a clue about such things).
On the other side I doubt, that Oleg did include something like that in the patch.
So I just suppose you made a clean install from DVD/CD, which brings naturally the Securom stuff with it. You need to exchange the necessary files as you did before and you are good to go.

I believe Caspar is correct.

Aviar

I have the old A7N8X2.0, had to do the same. Worked soon as I replaced the files.

Thanks!!

Many thanks Daidalos Team and all for this great patch. I wondered if anyone has experienced sound distortion since patching? I'm working with a clean 4.08m installed patched to 4.09m. It may be something else - just chcking in before I do more drastic troubleshooting.





Asus Crosshair
AMD Phenom 9950
EVGA 260
onboard sound
2 GB RAM
Windows XP Pro SP3

Hi WWMirage, I'm having engine sound distortion when switching from outside view to cockpit view. I don't remember ever having this issue on previous patches so I'm not quite sure where to start looking if it is a setting not a bug. If it isn't a bug and you find how to fix it I'd be interested in finding out how.

I do not have to have the disk in.

I don't think this is a bug exclusive to 4.09m, but I will report it anyway.

Take a P-38 up high and you will notice that the contrails for this plane are not appearing DIRECTLY behind it like other planes. The contrails are actually appearing ABOVE and behind the plane.

I have screenshots if you would like to see them. Obviously, this is in a totally unmodded 4.09m.

Aviar

Ahh... Yes, I made a clean install without altering anything. Welcome back SecureRom. :p





Okay, thanks... Need to search the archives to figure out what I did before. It's been *that* long, I have no idea how I got it working without the (stuff) before.

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To keep this on track, sort of, did the 4.09m patch alter any existing single-player missions? I ask because I flew one at random to test various settings with the new installation I made and came across a strange occurrence.

Single Player -> Luftwaffe -> Me-262HG-II -> 'Armada from the East' mission

My virtual self got himself head-shot, but my aircraft was trimmed up enough to fly on without me (nothing too odd there). Eventually my aircraft slammed into the ground ... and bounced right back into the air again, and gained speed. After a while the flaming ball was moving over 1000kph (at one point 1400kph), repeatedly hitting the ground and bouncing back as if it were indestructable. Which made me look at the difficulty settings to be sure that my aircraft could indeed be destroyed. Yes, the difficulty settings were properly set. Perhaps that's an old issue with the Kiev map (I know that map has various issues associated with it)... if so, I apologize for taking your time.

Oh, I do appreciate the fact the AA gunners no longer shoot at parachutists. I always found that to be rather rude of them.

Hi all, hope this is'nt rehashing over "stuff" already discussed. Anyway, I just installed the new 409m patch over an unmodded, fresh install and the following happens when I try to start the game. The game seems to start normally, shows the loading screen, laods to 5% and then crashes to windows. Any help available or ideas?
I'm running windows xp, Ati 4850, Pentium 4,3.6 ghz, pretty much run of the mill.
Thanks, Bud215

Bud215, the same problem happens with me. I installed over the un-modded 409 beta. Running Windows Vista on my notebook with an Intel T5450 1.66 GHz core duo. Loads to 5% then drops back to the desktop.

Update: Un-installed 4.09 beta, re-installed 1946 off the DVD, then the 4.09 patch - same result as above.

OK, I worked it out. Some of you others might have hit the same snag as me, so here goes:

My 1946 DVD is version 4.07 which won't take the 4.09 patch directly- you have to install the 4.08 patch, then the 4.09 full patch will install with no problems. Hope this helps anyone else who, like me, must have been a blond in a previous life.

Hmmm.
Certain Scramble missions with Lerche aircraft don't seem to work that great.

So I don't spend hours looking..
Which ones ?


Wheels

Anyone where you start inside a hangar (Slovakia, I believe).

If your flight >1, then your poor hapless AI plane will lift off into the rafters.

Lerche takes off straight up. So, any QMB mission where your (or they) start in a hangar... well...

Aaah, I see what you mean. That will be a problem.


Wheels

I just noticed this today while flying the JU-88.

4.08





4.09

Me262, are you sure you are not in the "gunsight" view in one picture and in "cockpit" view in the second one?

I'm pretty sure in cockpit view, but I will try it again.

That wouldn't be an issue if the IL-2 patches got with the program and were EXE installers like what every other PC game publisher uses. That way if you try to run a patch on an install that is missing a prerequisite version it will give you an error message and wont proceed.

Geeze, Panzer. I actually prefer IL2's way of patching.

Round up the new files and archive 'em, post 'em.

Nothing fancy, no registry requirements, etc.

Just gotta be smarter than the average bear, I guess.

Having the IQ requirement is not an issue for me but if something can be made to run and process faster and more convenient then why not?

My max framerate is lower. I'm NOT using the new clouds or increased landscape distance either... Water is set to 2. Using 2x FSAA and 2x Anisotropy filtering. Running in OpenGL on Perfect mode. I have side-by-side installs of 4.09m and a 4.08m of IL-2: 1946. With 4.08m I'm getting 15-20 fps more in the Black Death track for the max frame rate (85 being max as I use v-sync and play at 1280x960). In 4.09m the highest I get is 60ish, with the exact same settings as the 4.08m install.

My system specs:

Windows XP SP3
Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU
Gigabyte GA-K8NS-939 motherboard
AMD Dual Core 4200+
2GB Kingston PC3200 DDR400 memory (2x1GB sticks)
256mb AGP BFG NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS OC @ 460Mhz core and 1,300Mhz memory
Seagate 250GB SATA hard drive @ 7200 RPM
Western Digital 320GB ATA100 hard drive @ 7200 RPM
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card w/latest drivers
Logitech's Z-5300e 5.1 speaker system
Buslink DVD-ROM drive
Buslink DVD+-RW/+-R and CD-RW/-R drive
All-in-one Floppy drive/Compact Flash/Microdrive/SD/MMMC/Sony Memstick and Memstick Pro/Smart Media card reader
Samsung SyncMaster 997DF 19in. monitor
Belkin USB 2.0 7-port hub
Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar stock joystick
Thrustmaster Elite rudder pedals
Saitek AV8R USB joystick
Creative WebCam NX Ultra
Razer Copperhead USB mouse w/Razer ExactMat
Logitech G15 Gaming USB keyboard
TrackIR 3 Pro w/Vector expansion
HP Deskjet 3650 USB Printer
All in a Thermaltake Kandalf case with BigWater SE water cooling. Upgraded pump to a Thermaltake P500 pump

ArgonV,

At first I was also curious but I have not seen any frame rate difference. In fact, I just did a Black Death test and 4.09 actually was a tiny bit faster:

4.08m: Average 123 FPS
4.09m: Average 127 FPS

Both graphics settings were the same as well as the conf settings.

Aviar

How does one choose a "Scramble" mission from the QMB? I can't seem to notice any options for that in the QMB.

It is under "target".

Do'h!

Thanks akdavis.

Don't feel bad.
It took me a while to find it too.


Wheels

Greetings all,

I guess I must be the only one who is experiencing this, since I haven't seen any posts about it.

I'm having a devil of a time with v4.09m. I'm running in XP, IL2-1946, BoE and Ostfront. I have the latest EnjoyR patch installed. I consistently get an error msg at the end of missions. The box pops up stating "Dgen.exe has encountered a problem....". Sometimes that's the extent of it, but most times when I go back to that pilot's career to fly a new mission, the briefing screen in blank...no map, info etc...I end up having to delete that pilot and start over.

At first I thought I might have a corrupted file somewhere, but I have uninstalled and reinstalled the sim four times and it dosen't make any difference.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Scott

Anyone out there....????

Flieger701

Are you by any chance using AVG Free 9.0? I had the same DGen problems after installing AVG Free 9.0.

Uninstalled AVG 9.0 and replaced with Microsoft Essentials (also free) - back to normal.

~S~

Ramone43

Hi Ramone43,

Thanks for the reply and yes, I'm using AVG9.0. Actually I ran across this solution yesterday in the Mission4today IL2 forums. What I did was list my UBI folder in the AVG Resident Directoy Excludes and my DGEN.exe in the Excluded files section of the Resident Directory Excludes. Flew 4 missions last night without any problems...keeping my fingers crossed.

Cheers,
Scott

Hi flieger + Ramone,
I'm hoping you guys have just saved me a re-install. I've had the same problem, and recently added AVG 9.0.
Thanks for the info.

Regards Dave.

Well....sorry to report the AVG "fix" didn't work for me after all. Last night I had the DGEN error, and again tonight. Sucks.

I'm going to try using Lowengrin's DCG with 4.09M. If that dosen't work, uninstall and reinstall again, this time only to 4.08M, and use Lowengrin's DCG.

I had a feeling the AVG fix wasn't going to work. I have a utility I use called "FSautostart". I use it to shut down all programs that are not necessary for WinXP to run before I sim. I use it with FS9, SHIII, and IL2-1946. One of the programs it shuts down before it launches the sim I have selected is AVG.

Cheers,
Scott

Hi flieger

Sorry to hear the AVG fix didn't work for you. I still think the culprit is AVG 9.0.

I have four il2 installs: 4.08m, 4.09m, 4.08+UI1.1 and 4.09+HFSX4 and have a number of DGen campaigns going on in each. I've probably had a few DGen errors in six years, but after upgrading from AVG 8.5 to ver. 9.0 I got the "DGen.exe has encountered a problem..." error after every DGen mission in all four installs. Never had a problem with 8.5

I've done about 40 or so DGen missions since uninstalling AVG9, and have had zero errors. Kind of makes me think AVG is responsible and not DGen.exe.

I've used FSautostart, but I wonder if some part of AVG (Resident Shield?) stays resident in memory regardless.

Anyway, hope things work out for you.


~S~
Ramone43

Hi again Ramone + flieger

I tried the method as suggested, didn't work for me either. I uninstalled AVG 9 tried a couple of dgen missions, all seemed to work as it should.
I've now gone over to Avira AV, hope this works ok with dgen, fingers crossed.

Thanks again guys.

Hi Ramone & Dave,

Last night I flew some missions in a campaign using Lowengrin's DCG...everything went OK. I'll continue on in the campaign tonight and see if I get any errors.

It certainly seems that AVG 9.0 is the culprit. I don't believe it's 4.09M DGEN since if it was, the forums would be flooded with posts about it.

I may look into a different anti virus program to replace AVG...hate to do that though, been using AVG for years.

Cheers,
Scott

Hi flieger,

If I could have found the AVG vers.8 or 8.5, I would have reverted to that too.
I've used AVG for yonks, and didn't want to change, but I found a forum with a lot of complaints about vers.9. on many applications. So it's not just us flight simmers.
Anyway, fingers crossed.

Regards Dave.

Ok, someone has to point this out.

1. This thread seems useless because no one from Maddox or Dadelous (sp?) has commented on any post.

?

Tolwyn, have faith.

Some things have already been sorted by the community.

Also, the original post was by Martin from Dadelous. I assume {hope} they read this thread.

S! Dave

I uninstalled AVG 9.0 and reinstalled AVG 8.5. Flew about 5 missions and got the same DGEN error msg. Going to leave AVG off the system and see what happens. Not a happy camper.

Cheers,
Scott

Well... we read it. But so far there is not much in here, that we can take care of (i.e. AVG issues).
Some of the problems are because of 'not reading readmes'. Others ( especcially on first page) are taken seriously into account. We are looking for 'real' bugs, that WE build in with 4.09.

So far there have been few ... much less, that we silently expected.


Regards,
Caspar

Hi Caspar,

I think you may have misunderstood my lastest post (and I guess I could have phrased it better). I did not mean to imply that I was not a happy camper due to a fault of DGEN, that was some venting directed towards AVG. I merely posted it since other people had posted having problems with AVG and just wanted to let them know that the rolling back to AVG v8.5 "fix" did not work...at least in my case.

Cheers,
Scott

Yes I know, and I was in fact answering Dave01.
I wanted to give a feedback, as indeed there is low answering from our side.
Thats because its rather an information/collection thread for us, than a discussion thread.
We take the infos we need from it(and from other forums as well) and work with it.
So on the other side we don't touch topics, that do not belong to our work.

Presently I am running 4.08 update to the Boxed il2 1946 dvd version and do not need the dvd in my dvd drive . if i install 4.09 will i need to insert the dvd in my drive?

If you only add the patch now... no. The il2fb.exe will not be exchanged nor the rts.dll.
But I wonder, that your box version already comes with a 'nondvd' feature.

Sorry for the late answer, I guess others could have answered this as well instead.

Patching to v4.09m does not make you have to put the DVD in the DVD drive.
It will still work just fine without it.
If you haven't found the v4.09m patch yet or it gives you trouble it is being hosted on SimHQ too.
Get it here. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2871942/SimHQ_Mirror_for_the_409_Patch.html#Post2871942

I would add the skin patch too.
It's not necessary but IMO it does make the planes look better.



The US version of the "official" game doesn't need the CD to be in the DVD tray to play.
The US version shipped without any SecuROM or any other copy protection.

My "original" unmodded game does not require me to have the DVD in the DVD tray either.



Wheels

That 109 cockpit is 4 years old

That joke is 2 years old.

We upgraded computers this weekend from an ancient AMD X2 based system to the following:

ASUS M4A78 Pro MoBo
AMD Athlon II X4 620 CPU
Diamond ATI Radeon HD 4670 GPU/Catalyst 9.12
6 Gb DDR2 (combination of 2Gb of older Kingston PC4200 and newer Centon 557 MHz) RAM
500 Mb Seagate Barracuda main drive
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy from my old box with all current drivers (Win7 recognized it!)
Windows 7 Enterprise N

I had an interesting time getting IL-2 to run under the new setup. It started out with me being an idiot and installing 4.09 over the U.S. 1946 DVD release...which I didn't remember was 4.07m. When I reaslized what I'd done I tried to salvage by installing 4.08m then reinstalling 4.09m, like a nimrod, and of course that epically failed with a dialog proclaiming that I needed a web-install key! I had the DVD, so clearly I didn't have what the game wanted.

Realizing that operator headspace was the problem, I uninstalled IL-2 entirely and deleted all files. This time, I would do better.

The U.S. version of 4.07m natively installs in Win7's "Program Files (x86)" directory. This time I booted into 4.07 on install, to be SURE it worked. It did, and so I then installed 4.08m, to the same directory.

And the wheels came off. The dreaded click-on-icon-and-nothing-happens bug. I could find nothing on Ubi's website but "check your private messages," and the bug looked like it was a 4.09 bug for everyone but me. So I thought about it. Maybe there's an .exe problem, they were talking about a SecureRom issue that there is a modded .exe for. I found the modded .exe and tried it, and nothing happened. I scratched my head in frustration. Maybe it's a problem with a .dll or something that they fixed in 4.09. Can't hurt to try. So I installed 4.09m.

And now the game works.

Except for ONE THING. You can't hear the radio voices at all. But everything else works great! And the last version of Stab launches it just fine.

Anyone have a problem with the voice files in Win7? That's a weird one.

(EDIT!): The voice problems are another operator headspace situation. The SoundBlaster wasn't properly set up-it was set up for quad sound and I've only got two speakers. D'oh!

This is interesting. Usually, if I try to use "perfect" landscaping the UI freaks out and you can't read any text or even see the UI, it's all messed up and the text is distorted like a Picasso painting. But I can use Stab to max the graphics and the text/UI doesn't freak out and artifact to unreadability til the mission is loading. Once in the mission, you can see the 3D graphics just fine, you just can't read any text or see any option boxes while the mission is loading, and in game you can't read the audio subtitles or see the text readouts for speed and heading. Once the mission starts it looks fan-tastic, and after about a munite and a view change or two suddenly you can read the text again and see the UI on quit from the mission. That's weird, probably a driver effect on my particular system.

I never got to see "Perfect" water effects before. Other than some artifacting in the clouds in certain light states, like at dusk, it looks amazing. And even in the Black Death .ntrk framerates are acceptable with a minimum of stutter. I'll scale back to "Excellent, possibly, when I play but I usually don't play missions with a lot of stuff going on-haven't the time. So...pretty cool.

Miao, Cat

What kind of graphic card do you have?