I know it's been said before, but looking at the new Logitech HOTAS I'm just baffled by why EA wouldn't bring this sim up to 21st century standards. It seems like most of the simming code is already done. How much would it cost them (compared to creating yet another new FPS from scratch) to give this sim current DX 32bit graphics, fix some bugs like the yaw, add modern control configurations, and bring all the TSH mods on board...minus the A-10/F-14 which clearly wouldn't be that important? Just a frigg'n shame. To use a 6 year old video card and do a little dance is too much to ask when there's Eagle Dynamics and Lead Pursuit out there. Enemy Engaged and WWII Fighters might have gotten lucky with their compatibility (or at least moddable to it in the former), but EA needs a wakeup call.

EA is out of the (flight sim) business. The Flight Sim market is a relatively small niche and was never much more than a pimple on the butt of their sports games anyway. They managed to assemble teams to create classic flight sims for flight sim aficionados, but the bottom line was never there.

And EA shut down Jane's Group years ago so that group has probably other jobs now

Matt Wagner is running Eagle Dynamics, is he not?

This sim is probably never going to get updated -- we'll squeeze a few more years out of it, I guess, while we are waiting for LP or ED or somebody to put out a decent Naval Aviation sim.

Or 7G. I'm hoping that between the release of the G940 and the rumored release of the X-65, there's a new flight sim coming out for a twin-engine military aircraft. And that seems to be the rumor floating around...

I do miss the sky and horizon in FA-18, though. And the balance of situational awareness: not insufficient like F4AF or godlike in TAW, but a nice balance between. Not to mention you get to use the IR pod for targeting, which falcon sorely needs, and no lame-arse 2D panels. Do any modern computers bought in a box run this sim with the latest TSH without any other dance? And fast?

Do any modern computers bought in a box run this sim with the latest TSH without any other dance? And fast? [/quote]

The Gateway laptop I bought about 2 1/2 years ago runs it perfectly. But then again, I also made sure to get it with XP instead of Vista.

It will never happen sadly but I want i new Fleet Defender or any other F-14 Tomcat simulator

Yeah but the thruth is that EA became the largest computer-game company in world circa year 2000 (according to the Guiness book of World records of that same year) mainly due to sims like:
- LHX
- Su-25 Sturmovick
- Chuck Yeager's Air Combat
- Jane's F-15
- Jane's F-18
- Jane's Apache Longbow
- Jane's Apache Longbow 2
- Jane's 688i Hunter Killer
- Jane's Fleet Command
- Sub Command
(and these are the ones that I remember of)

Since it was because of those sims that EA became the world's largest computer-game company in 2000 I would say that Simulations are more profitable than what many may think of (simulations are underestimated by many game devs and publishers as well).

True that simulations may be more expensive to develop and sell less than "ordinary" and "arcadish" FPS but Reticuli makes a very valid point that every game dev and publisher seems to forget of:
- For a simulation you can use the same engine for almost (or even more than) a decade with only minor updates (for the most part only small gameplay and graphical updates are needed). You see, the great advancements in terms of graphics are very secondary to most simmers - They only want some updated graphical improvements and don't catter much for those fancy lastest-tech graphics in their sims. This is basically IMPOSSIBLE to do with mainstream "arcadish" FPS games for example. In this regard (graphical and physics tecnology updates) simulations end up being IMO more economical since there's NO need for the lastest technology!
- With the same game engine you can make several NEW simulations but that's not so viable within mainstream FPS and other types of games, at least without major improvements in terms of graphical and physics tecnology.
For example with all of those 10 EA simulators that I gave above which ranges from 1990 (LHX) to 2000 (Sub Command) which is exactly a decade, you'll see that there is only a total of 4 game engines (LHX, Su-25 Sturmovick and Chuck Yeager's Air Combat uses one engine; Jane's F-15 and Jane's F-18 uses other engine; Jane's Apache Longbow and Jane's Apache Longbow 2 uses other engine and finally Jane's 688i Hunter Killer, Jane's Fleet Command and Sub Command uses other engine).

So and finally IMO, you can't have or can hardly have that same level of reusability (which means -> profitability) with mainstream games (like FPS)!

This of course, are my 2 cents...

I too, wish for an update or even a new version ..
..considering the hurdles like the AA slowdown, banding, ect..
and the need to improve other aspects like the Flight Model and addition of NVG ability.


but i think it's impossible now since the Jane's team were disbanded millions of moons ago..