#2864091 - 09/20/09 05:41 PM
Re: My SimPit
[Re: Jonesy8077]
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Corsair8X
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Dagestan, Dover, DMZ
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That is really impressive. The thing that really struck me was how clean everything looked. Then I saw the pic of the piping and how it goes around the keyboard and I was blown away. Like your switch bank a lot too.
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#2864147 - 09/20/09 06:22 PM
Re: My SimPit
[Re: Jonesy8077]
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Jiver67
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Thanks Donk, I appreciate it! The seat is from Jazz Products ( http://www.jazproducts.com/poly_bucket_seats.html) and it is their Pro Stock model. I actually picked it up at a local speed shop. It is comfortable for about a maximum of two hours and then your back starts to get sore....LOL!
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#2864274 - 09/21/09 12:11 AM
Re: My SimPit
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BammerVB
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Can you elaborate or show some more info on the joystick mods? Where did that lower switch panel come from and what is it wired to? Do you get any slop with the joystick extension? Slop meaning that you have to wag the thing all over the place to make a small adjustment. Or were you able to calibrate the extra length out of it? I made one of these one time and it was a waste. The extra length made the stick basically unusable: GL
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#2864359 - 09/21/09 04:42 AM
Re: My SimPit
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Jiver67
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Hey Bammer, I lengthened the joystick by about 5.5" using 1/2" diameter copper plumbing pipe. I cut the gimbal shaft in two and then epoxied the copper pipe onto the two halfs.... I had to cut windows on both ends of the pipe to allow passing the wiring harness through the shaft during assembly and disassembly..... Of course, the wiring harness needed to be lengthened by a good 6 inches. Lots of cutting, stripping, and soldering.... Anyway, here is what the fully modded joystick looks like.... The panel is a custom job I built. The box is an aluminum project case I bought from Fry's Electronics and cut down to fit under the throttle platform. The top row of switches (and knob) is the front panel from the Aviator joystick. I relocated the panel to the switch box and created a custom harness to connect the switches to the joystick (so that the panel can still be used with the Saitek programming software). The bottom row of switches I picked up from a local electronics supply store. These switches are connected to a BUO836 controller inside the box.... Yes, extending the length of the joystick created about 2 inches of additional "travel" or "slop" over the full range of movement. It actually works very well with my setup and doesn't cause any issues. However, there is a very slight misalignment of the handle to the base gimbal due to the inside diameter of the copper pipe being a bit larger than the outside diameter of the gimbal shaft (I should have paid a machinist to cut me a couple custom bushings to slip over the gimbal shafts....oh well). This misalignment gives me a little unwanted left bias on the X-axis, but I can live with it. Wow, you did a fantastic job lengthening that X52....it really looks professional! Was the plan to use it as a helicopter cyclic? I imagine that you probably have to move that thing a good foot or so to go from stop to stop on an axis, yes? Anyway, I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out for you.
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#2864447 - 09/21/09 10:37 AM
Re: My SimPit
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BammerVB
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10-4, way to much length in that X45. I cut it down quite a bit and am currently having it evaluated by a third party. Yes, it was designed for helos after I saw this famous pic online. Hey, thanks for the extra pics. I think I speak for all when I say we want to see everything on how the custom simpit was built. I know I get great ideas when seeing how something was done. Keep sharing whatever you have. Tks, GL
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#2864479 - 09/21/09 12:27 PM
Re: My SimPit
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Very cool work on the simpit and the joystick mod, jiver67! The icing on the cake is the very neat wiring management; a job worth doing is worth doing right, eh! bammer, unless you could use gears to increase the movement of the potentiometer that does seem long...but it looks good though. I tore apart an old VCR a few months back with all it's gears....the wife just chuckled at me when i said i might be able to use these, someday. Again, thanks for posting the cool simpit, Jiver67. Regards, MudPuppy
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#2864752 - 09/21/09 07:14 PM
Re: My SimPit
[Re: BammerVB]
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GrizzlyT
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10-4, way to much length in that X45. I cut it down quite a bit and am currently having it evaluated by a third party. Yes, it was designed for helos after I saw this famous pic online.... Yeah, I know the builder and that design lasted a very short time. He too quickly realized that it created way too much stick stir. It was shortened quite a bit and mounted to a small pedastal, in it's final version.
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#2864868 - 09/21/09 10:12 PM
Re: My SimPit
[Re: BammerVB]
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Sokol1
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However, there is a very slight misalignment of the handle to the base gimbal due to the inside diameter of the copper pipe being a bit larger than the outside diameter of the gimbal shaft (I should have paid a machinist to cut me a couple custom bushings to slip over the gimbal shafts....oh well). Jiver67, Nice work. A easy way to align tubes with different diameters: Sokol1
Last edited by Sokol1; 09/21/09 10:54 PM.
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#2864880 - 09/21/09 10:32 PM
Re: My SimPit
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HitchHikingFlatlander
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Jiver as everyone has said nice job and thanks for posting pics on not only the pit but the project itself like someone else mentioned its a huge resource for builders and builders "to-be". Cool Stuff and looks great!
I've got a bad feeling about this.....
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#2864918 - 09/22/09 12:10 AM
Re: My SimPit
[Re: BammerVB]
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Jiver67
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Bammer,
Ah, it is an X-45 (not an X-52)....my bad. I think if you wanted to use a really long stick design (such as for a helicopter cyclic) it could be done using a custom built gimbal. You would have to use some type of a leverage arm (or gears, like MudPuppy mentioned) to accelerate the amount of travel on the pots. Just something to think about (if you haven't already).
Thanks for the positive feedback!
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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