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#2861714 - 09/16/09 09:38 AM
Who is Bobrock?
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 6230
Loc: South East Asia
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I noticed he modified my tornado model and made an F.3. I can't say I'm very happy about the fact that neither my name, nor sundowner's name appear anywhere in any of the credits. However I do want a copy of my model back, so if anyone has it please let me know.
Cheers
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#2861894 - 09/16/09 01:59 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 1947
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AD,
I just checked the GR/IDS models and compared them to the F3 model. The mappings don't match by any degree.
The OUT files are also very different in terms of bmps, hierarchies, etc.
Can you be specific as to what you see that makes you believe the F3 model is derived from your work?
FC
Edited by FastCargo (09/16/09 02:13 PM)
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#2861958 - 09/16/09 03:53 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: FastCargo]
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 6230
Loc: South East Asia
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I know it's mine because I built it. The mappings don't match by any degree. Actually you're wrong there. The mappings for most parts are identical, take a look at for example the airbrake and you'll see it's the same shape/angle/size. However they've been moved onto 3 new sheets with a different arrangement is all. Anyway I'm really not that bothered about permissions, I just want a copy of my original model back from Bobrock or anyone else that has it, because I no longer have a copy. Cheers
Edited by AD (09/16/09 05:16 PM)
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#2862135 - 09/17/09 02:31 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Registered: 03/02/07
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Hello AD, sorry to disappoint you, but the F.3 model is 100% original in any of its parts, airbrakes, wings, fuselage... whatever. I think I know for sure because I did the model from scratch, as I ALWAYS do(the different screenname on this board is actually a bit misleading, but you can get in touch with me on CAce forums if you like).
The fact that many parts "look" the same it's because, well, they ARE the same on the real plane, why should I have made them different?
I don't have your original GR/IDS model, best of luck finding it
bobrock
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#2862172 - 09/17/09 05:12 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: bobrock]
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 6230
Loc: South East Asia
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We'll just have to agree to disagree there.
Can someone please send me my tornado model.
Edited by AD (09/17/09 05:47 AM)
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#2862207 - 09/17/09 06:09 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Some things never change in these parts.. 
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#2862215 - 09/17/09 06:29 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Boilerplate*]
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Registered: 10/29/01
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Loc: South East Asia
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Some things never change in these parts.. LOL ain't that the truth
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#2863044 - 09/18/09 08:22 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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#2863342 - 09/18/09 06:46 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Sundowner]
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#2863348 - 09/18/09 06:52 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 1569
Loc: Greensboro, NC
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Dave- I have this still on my backup if you need it. Got the Hunter and the SU-17 as well. Probably others as well.
Edited by Deuces80th (09/18/09 06:54 PM)
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#2863371 - 09/18/09 07:36 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Deuces80th]
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 6230
Loc: South East Asia
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:O Thanks mate I appreciate anything you can send me. Did you ever find out what happened to my webspace? Did any of that get backed up? I've PM'd you my email address.
Thanks again
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#2863424 - 09/18/09 11:54 PM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Registered: 11/25/02
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Loc: Greensboro, NC
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No problem Dave. I'll zip up what I have and get it to you.
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#2863447 - 09/19/09 01:28 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Deuces80th]
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Registered: 12/18/02
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Loc: Belgium
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good thing old guard is still alive....
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#2863487 - 09/19/09 06:13 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
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Absolutely. I've learned quite a bit from them.
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#2872322 - 10/03/09 01:48 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: PFunk]
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Registered: 05/27/05
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AD, do you have your tornado model yet? There is another way you can get it... ish.
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#2878236 - 10/12/09 05:34 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Deuces80th]
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Posts: 448
Loc: Oegstgeest NL
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Good to see you back Armourdave, still using a lot of yuor planes (Hunter, Sukhoi) which are working well enough with the latest patches !!
Hou doe,
Derk
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#2878302 - 10/12/09 07:31 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
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I'll be damned i never made the connection.
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#2878905 - 10/13/09 07:04 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: DaveSHQ]
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 962
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EDIT: AD, please check PM! 
Edited by soulfreak (10/13/09 10:54 PM)
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#2899284 - 11/12/09 12:45 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: soulfreak]
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Registered: 03/08/01
Posts: 3823
Loc: moving around europe...
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I don't have any of them AD but, if your reason to believe you've been copied is something like "the angle of the airbrake", it's pretty weak. If the two modelled aircraft share the same part, they should have the part modeled identically. Where you may see the difference (and even then, not always) is in the form of the polys composing it, which can by in various shapes, and, again, not necessarily very different if it's some relatively simple part... )
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#2902581 - 11/17/09 06:35 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: TooCool_12f]
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 6230
Loc: South East Asia
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Nobody said anything about angles. It's got nothing to do with angles.
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#2904681 - 11/20/09 01:30 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: AD]
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 962
Loc: Schapen / Germany (near the ho...
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Has somebody Daves SU-17 source??? Dave hasenīt it...  would be cool to have it, to make an SU.22M4 & UMK3
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#2904867 - 11/20/09 08:13 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Deuces80th]
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Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 70
Loc: Sycamore,Illinois
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AD: I have your Tornado package. PM me at combatace and I'll get it to you.
ezlead
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#2904884 - 11/20/09 08:32 AM
Re: Who is Bobrock?
[Re: Deuces80th]
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Registered: 06/07/06
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Loc: Sycamore,Illinois
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AD: Sorry Man,The Package is to big to upload at CA.
ezlead
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