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#2861180 - 09/15/09 01:27 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: jocko-]
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Nice review.

The big question for me is there a deadzone on the Joystick. I was an early adopter of the X52 and found the X52's deadzone made accurate shooting almost impossible.
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#2861181 - 09/15/09 01:29 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: jocko-]
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Just thought of something, on my Logitech mouse if I push down on the scroll wheel I can toggle between smooth scrolling and 'detented' scrolling (if you get my meaning) when working with documents, the push can also be mapped to a chosen key press in games. I wonder if Logitech could have designed a sprung rotary that would allow toggling between having or not having a center detent. Could also be used as another mappable key press.

Would that be (have been) possible based on how my mouse wheel works?
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#2861202 - 09/15/09 01:59 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
The big question for me is there a deadzone on the Joystick. I was an early adopter of the X52 and found the X52's deadzone made accurate shooting almost impossible.

There really is no deadzone unless you set one in the axis properties using the Profiler Software. I'd say that at the base of the stick, where it enters the base unit, there is a quarter inch of no resistance in any range of motion of the stick..but checking that motion against what the stick is reporting shows that even with very tiny movements of the stick you are getting movements translated to the program. Some might NOT like that because that would mean letting go of the stick without setting a deadzone might possibly result in a slight drift tendency. For accurate flying and targeting though, that would be desirable. I tried to capture a FRAPS video of my controller sensitivity page showing the calibration page in motion, but FRAPS only captures video from a 3D accelerated window I guess, so it didn't work.
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#2861203 - 09/15/09 01:59 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: jocko-]
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Originally Posted By: jocko-
Would that be (have been) possible based on how my mouse wheel works?

I'm sure it would be..but I don't know how much engineering that would have required for the G940..
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#2861216 - 09/15/09 02:16 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Just wanted to print a correction to the article here and we'll get it fixed in the main article. I just talked to the Logitech representative and he pointed out that my fingernails must not have been long enough because the plastic caps on the buttons on the base of the throttle are NOT permanently marked.. Rather, there are mylar inserts within and all you have to do is tap the button on a hard surface and they will plop out. I tried scraping them out..and when I couldn't I drew the incorrect conclusion that they were permanently marked on there. That was my error!

Picture for reference..the P1, P2, P3 can be removed and the cardboard cutouts installed to label each button:



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#2861237 - 09/15/09 02:42 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: BeachAV8R]
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What kind of shotty reporting is this!!!

LOL

At least Logitech set you straight beach biggrin

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#2861254 - 09/15/09 02:59 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: ripper998]
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Originally Posted By: ripper998
What kind of shotty reporting is this!!!

Well, it's funny because I took the buttons off and separated one of the cardboard button labels and I was thinking the whole time..uh..OK..obviously those are stickers in there inside of the buttons. Well, I put my finger in the button cavity and tried to scrape out the sticker..held it up to the light, scrutinized, tried some more..and the thing wouldn't come out. I couldn't even see a seam or ripple that would indicate it was a decal. I tried scraping the inside of the button, the outside of the button..NO GO. I thought..surely Logitech wouldn't be stupid enough to permanently mark the outside of the buttons, but it sure looked like the buttons were cast with permanent marking.

Then I get an email saying "uh..they are held in with static electricity, and they are sort of hard plastic sheets, so all you have to do is tap them on a surface and they fall out.."

Doh!!

Sure enough.

So Logitech wasn't that stupid. I was..

Good grief.

Now you can see why it took me 3 days to install the dishwasher in my house. Technically adept? Not this guy.
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#2861407 - 09/15/09 08:07 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: Magnum]
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Originally Posted By: Magnum
Thx for your feedback Raw, in more then just one article... it's appreciated. wink


I know how it is. Putting out the effort and seeing plenty of views but no discussion or acknowledgment is disheartening.
Reviews here are much more thorough and informative than any of the "usual" sources. Keep up the good work.
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#2861416 - 09/15/09 08:19 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
So Logitech wasn't that stupid. I was..
That sort of stuff happens all of the time when I explore hardware. At least we get to get it right. smile

Nice writeup, and a cool product.

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#2861504 - 09/15/09 11:55 PM Re: Review: Logitech Flight System G940 [Re: Joe]
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Thanks for the review Beach.
I saw the video yesterday so I figured a review was surely on its way.
I was real happy to see you tested it with IL-2.


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