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#2848705 - 08/26/09 01:26 PM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Buddye1]
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Well, like I said, I am going over to Best Buy today and I am purchasing CFS3 if they have it. Then I will come home and order OFF3.

As far as RoF goes... There is something seriously wrong with a game when it divides people down bitter lines. There is all this blind sheepish hope that people have about it and there is nothing to back up the hope with aside from faith. From what I know about OFF it was a grass roots effort by a group of WWI aviation history and flight sim geeks (I mean that with much respect). THOSE are the kinds of people I want making my WWI flight sim. -Not some Russians who can't even afford to hire a proper translator for their English version.

I think you might be right about the bullets Buddye. I too have never see bullets and I have set my converge to 50m on my guns. There is no way I can pump 5 seconds worth of ammo into an opponents cockpit and he's still flying. If I even give the AI a chance to hit me, even for a split second, I am dead.
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#2848875 - 08/26/09 06:53 PM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Counterman]
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The OFF devs are unique Counterman. Very hands on, attentive, respectful and very much a labour of love. Money can't buy that love. And yet they have produced a "classic". In my limited experience the only other sim I know of where the devs are equally on the ball is BOBII.

RoF on the other hand is beginning to leave a nasty taste for many here at SimHQ. I'm not sure if the Russian devs even care. They certainly don't seem to. It's like they've gone into their shell ignoring the west as being too troublesome and concentrating only on the Russian/Eastern Europe market. Arrogance perhaps ? Inexperience ? I don't know. They're just not communicating apart from the odd token effort to keep the faith basically but meaningless otherwise. It's wearing thin.

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#2849172 - 08/27/09 08:45 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: catch]
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OFF3 has been ordered and CFS3 too. Not sure where OFF is shipping from but maybe this weekend I'll get some WWI flying goodness.
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#2849300 - 08/27/09 11:56 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Counterman]
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Originally Posted By: Counterman
OFF3 has been ordered and CFS3 too. Not sure where OFF is shipping from but maybe this weekend I'll get some WWI flying goodness.


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#2852081 - 09/01/09 07:14 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Boelcke]
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Got my copy of OFF yesterday in the mail. I promptly installed it and the most recent superpatch. I flew CFS3 over the weekend and wasn't all that impressed with it to be honest; old graphics, MSFS flight models, and just kind of a clunky/clicky interface. I began to think what did I get myself into??? The OFF screenshots were alot better than this, how could the developers make this game look so awesome?

Well, after a few minutes of familiarizing myself with the interface in OFF, I created a new pilot and went for a quick flight in a D7.

I couldn't believe I was technically still playing CFS3. The graphics are fantastic for the age of the original sim, it's not the kind of eye candy you get in RoF, but they still enhance your flying experience. The colors are realistic, RoF is way too bright and cheery for me when it comes to its landscape. As I begun to fly around I started to hear the sounds of war around me, perhaps a bit over done (but how would I know? I was never there), I could hear rifle shots, machine guns, artillery, and flak. There were HILLS! I don't think I have ever seen hills (large and small) modeled in a flight sim like I do in OFF. The world was alive (even on free flight), many objects on the map, even observation balloons were lining the front.

The differences between OFF and RoF are very clear to me now. RoF has the eye candy and the flight models, but OFF has everything else. OFF flight models are good, but they suffer from the limitations of the Microsoft sim environment.

Overall I am overjoyed with the product that these developers have produced. It's fun, engaging, and has history in it. Hopefully the more I fly it, the more I can post about it. Anyone who is disappointed with RoF and seeks an amazing single player experience needs to give this one a try.

-Did I mention there are dozens of planes to choose from too? 36ish I think..


Edited by Counterman (09/01/09 09:50 AM)
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#2852092 - 09/01/09 07:25 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Counterman]
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Your words could be mine. I experienced the same feeling has you a month ago.
Only now I'm much more addicted. OFF it's really a great SP experience.

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#2852207 - 09/01/09 09:32 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: VonPaulus]
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Hmm. Interesting.

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#2852239 - 09/01/09 10:16 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: FlatSpinMan]
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My only gripe is Im still waiting for my copy to get here (I ordered it Saturday night, whats the hold-up???)

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#2852246 - 09/01/09 10:32 AM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Vic]
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Took 5 days to get here. I ordered it on a Wednesday and got it on a Monday.

9 bucks for USPS shipping was BS. I could have shipped myself in a flat rate box for 9 bucks USPS across the country. (not really, but you get my point)


Edited by Counterman (09/01/09 10:33 AM)
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#2852437 - 09/01/09 02:48 PM Re: Extremely Disappointed with RoF... [Re: Counterman]
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"The differences between OFF and RoF are very clear to me now. RoF has the eye candy and the flight models, but OFF has everything else."

From everything that I've read about OFF and ROF, I suspect that there's the definitive nail/head posting.

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