Thanks Aldo - that is some excellent background. And good luck with the repairs, hope you can enjoy a fine holiday.

Can I presume from your post that there are some good reasons to consider two installs of PESE: one for the PE3 version, and a separate one for the last public beta (I am not sure whether that is the af version you referenced above)? But don't try and mix the two in one install?

Well if there's a better game to be had by doing individual installs of Ost and PEX, then I'd like to know how to do it. Right now I'm running the standard 3 mods in one put together by Bob. But it has a few issues with optics. I've used the Goptics4 and have rrhal.dll errors. If I get rid of the dll files in the mod/optics dir, then the game is way too fast, turret speed is super fast.

So right now I'm using the 3-in one and goptics version 2 which seems to work ok.

Thanks T - I may have to try that approach. Wanting the full set of East Front scenarios, I went a different path and have run into trouble, perhaps the Single Scenario Lock?

Bought the GOG dl version of the PESE and made a fresh install, different computer.
Patched, tested, worked.
Launched OstPak Complete, then Mod Enabled it, game launched, but selecting Single Scenario, just get hour glass and hang.
Launched the OP2008 update for OP, enabled it - test results in same hang for SS.

Confirmed that both Instant Action and first Campaign mission run normally.

Any ideas? Advice on fixing? I already tried changing the dates in the US and German unlock scenario files to later ones suggested in the PEDG forum. Unistalled, cleaned registry, reinstalled - same result, no joy.

Eugine,
That is the Single Scenerio lock. If you tried the dates in this thread http://pedg.yuku.com/topic/1965 , then try other years. You can also try removing one or two scenerios from the scenerios folder (place them in a new folder for easy swapping). There is a detailed text file about the SSlock somewhere in your PE after you install Ostpak.

Multiple installs of PE are easy. Install PE version 1.2, find the folder that contains panzer_elite.exe and make a copy of the folder. Rename it to something that does not start with the same name (ie OstpackPE not PEOstpak if you installed PE to a folder called PE). Which ever folder is named the same as what you installed pe as will run. If you are in doubt where your PE is installed at, check the properties of your desktop shortcut.

TT,
you have a PM

Thanks, Aldo - I will try more times. I did change the extension name of a scenario to .bak - no soap. Also did try a number of different years also. But perhaps I need to do that for both us and german scn's untl the right combination? I did copy the two .scn's to the base PE scenario folder, as one of the faq's at PEDG suggested - and made the changes in the files in that location.

Given the roadblock, will do as you suggest for multiple installs. Similar to the old Falcon 4 trick for the same purpose. Have a good Labor Day weekend!

When you attempt to build the PE code in the latest compilers, it complains alot about the way PE reads strings of text. That is the SSlock, the code gets lost in an endless C++ search string. It is also why changing file names at the end of the file do not always work.

It may need more then one, but the optimal thing to do is move files out of the scenerios folder until single scenerio button works for you. Sort by name and remove all files that start with the same scenerio name.

Thanks for all your time, Aldo. I realize you are busy before the weekend. Installed fresh on a more modern core duo computer. Although initially getting the SS Lock, using the date adjustment approach ultimately worked. Runs fine again, so far as I can tell tonight. Also, copied and stashed a stock install so I can use it for re-copying, renaming, and modding an alternate non-PE3 version as suggested.

For the original computer, I may have to resort to the scenario sort/delete approach.

TerribleT - Ostpak, Scenarios 2009, MvRTorch and BritPak enabled and appear to work, which has added a lot more scenarios (once past the SLock hurdle!).

I enabled PE-X 16.5 by itself for a test drive. I must say, maybe it was just the mission design, but the experience was more involving than the Ostpak+PE3 mods. Infantry were more aggressive, and my wingmen were able to actually follow me and not get hung up. So much more was going on too, combat was really involved.

Now I understand that PE3 uses a build of 16.10ae, but did Bob leave some things out? Even little things like the sound of running over trees is gone in PE3.

The only thing no campaign and fewer missions. I tried to find the Normandy Graphics Pack but its nowhere to be found.

16.5 has the NGP landscapes, but you are right, it seems to have been frogotten from the archived material that is on the server.

The main differance between pe3 and 16.5 (when both are using the same version of the game engine) is the object attributes.

Ok on the NGP landscapes in PEX.

I dunno, I've played PEX straight, and then with the Torch PE-X mod, and in both cases the scencarios are exciting with lots to look out for. Enemy bazooka teams, infantry is very aggressive, you always have to keep looking over your shoulder. I just wish there were more stock Normandy scenarios for PE-X.

But with OstPak + PE3, the scenarios seem dead in comparison. Something is really missing. Is this because it comes down to scenario design? Maybe its just my imagination, but AT-guns seem to just sit still until you fire on them, infantry the same thing. And I haven't run across very many anti-tank infantry teams in Ost + PE3. Great mod with all the new tanks and early war missions, but it loses atmosphere when compared to PE-X by itself...