RoF is, as BW stated and so did the developers. This do to them simulating the movement of a full size control stick and not taking into account the length of a PC joy stick or scaling it down.

I do hope they fix this soon. Otherwise its a lot more realistic then that other sim called ... ON?

The WW-1 planes I flew are really stable and follow your hand movements like one had wings.

Cheers.

I'm glad you said that, as I felt the same thing and I hate to program my stick to reduce pitch because it'll mess up my other sims.

.... I forgot to mention that I taped a dowel to my joystick to the correct length of a full size one. Much better, .... looks silly, .... but much better.

Try it!

Cheers.

I've flown multiple Cessna models and a Citabria in RL.

JFM and womenly2 are right: no PC can ever emulate the seat-of-the-pants feel of a real aircraft. There's just so many sensations going on beyond sight and sound, from the orientation shifting in your inner ear... to the vibrations of the engine... to the subtle woosh of air outside... to the heat and/or cold... to the pressure pops in your ears... to the heaviness and lightness of pulling positive and negative G's.

That said, it's been a long time since a flight sim put an "I feel like I'm flying" stupid grin on my face. RoF did it in a huge way, so much that my face hurts. Seriously, when I think about the environmental effects and the flight modeling, this sim is just a blast to fly.

Let me put it like this: I'm actively seeking out flying lessons in a light sport aircraft (like a Quad City Challenger), because I want to feel what it's really like to have the wind in your face and the clouds at your fingertips.

WP .... find an airport that has flight lessons in taildraggers, like a Cub or Citabria.

Once you learn to fly them the rest are " a piece of strudel"

To be up there on a clear evening with wisps of clouds suspended over the horizon as the sun sets, seeing the purple-red sky, the air as smooth as silk, the peacefulness and serenity, is, well, what Beethoven, Vivaldi, Bach wrote about in their music. ... I hate to come down.

Do it!

The guy I just contacted has an Aeronca Champ, a Citabria, a Challenger, and a Cherokee.

I've posted before on this subject, but to answer:

I flew from 1975 up to 2006 when multiple sclerosis forced me to retire and disabled me. I've flown lots of light singles, including most every current variant in the Cessna and Piper series (except the Traumahawk) from C-120 150/2, 172,175,177,182 and so on, to PA-28s.

Light twins from Piper Senecas and Seminoles to the larger Navajo/Chieftains, Beech singles and twins including a couple years' freight dogging in Barons, short and long (55/58).

Most of my time, however, was in the Mitsubishi MU-2 medium turboprops that I got into in 1989 and stayed with through 2006 when I quit. I flew most variants, both short and long bodied, fom MU2B-35 'G' model through the 'N' and the Solitaire and Marquise. Lovely airframe, BTW, very honest, with a rather bad fatal accident history due mainly to insufficient unterstanding of the plane's idiosynchracies.

I hold a Private Glider certificate as well, obtained through the Schweizer factory school ages ago. SGS 2-32, -33, and 1-26 for the most part, not a lot of time but sufficient to have a feel for soaring.

Also a few hours picked up along the way in the J-3 (yes, it was yellow, had a Continental 65 that needed hand propping, and taught me a lot about what even a 5 knot crosswind can do with a taildragger), PA-18 Super Cub, C-120/140, Bellanca Citabria, Decathlon, etc. with some limited aerobatic time in the latter.

A few odds and ends, about an hour in the Westwind 1124 and another in a USAF full motion B-52 simulator at Barksdale AFB (don't ask...I'm a civilian puke, wasn't supposed to be anywhere NEAR the EW stuff...lol)

Also an hour or so flying with a gent in his Brunner-Winkle Bird biplane powered by a Kinner K-5 radial, my sole stick time in an open cockpit machine.

I've been to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome more than a few times, seen these machines in action, and have gotten to meet and talk with Cole Palen while he was still alive, not to mention piles of airshows where I was fortunate enough to meet and spend a bit of time with the likes of Bob Hoover, Duane Cole, Leo Loudenslager and other superb pilots...they all had one thing in common with me, a lifelong love of aviation and the pursuit of excellence while practicing it.

Just wanted to make it clear I've been around a bit.

ROF is, I'd say, as right on for feel as it's likely to get in a PC sim. It makes me feel like a pilot again, so given the circumstances, please excuse my enthusiasm.



It's earned me the 'fanboy' label before, which is funny in its own way considering how much I've complained about things like the recent TrackIR screwup after the last update or the obstacles that will remain in our way until neoqb releases some discrete dedicated server software that will let server owners set up on rented server space or second machines without having to install a whole new copy of the full sim...which isn't even a viable option with rented servers several states away.

I'm not in the rush some folks seem to be to see additional content added, since I'm busy putting in hours in each type of the available planes to become proficient in them. I'm sure I'll take advantage of a more dynamic campaign or more involved SP missions later, assuming they're added to and improved, but for now I'm still very much in training mode.

I'm the first to concur that much of the SP scene is lacking. Not so much like a barren wasteland though, that implies there was something there that was ruined and decayed...to me, it's more like a new and mostly blank canvas, awaiting the painter's brush to give it life.

I've talked and flown a bit with some on MP too, and I'm still seeing people who have trouble just starting an engine, or who can barely get off the ground without the physics helpers, engine help and so on when they find themselves in a server with these options turned off, and are still frying engines because they haven't learned to manage the mixture, radiator or RPMs.

I have to say I find it a bit ironic that folks are getting so wound up about the (so far) lack of content in ROF when so many have yet to master basic airman skills even the poorly trained pilots of the era represented had to have. It seems to me that this is often very much a case of putting the cart before the horse.

In my case, I've got somewhere over 14000 hours' flying in the real world, yet it's still a struggle to consistently land the little Nieuport 17 without damaging one of the lower wings! And I'm supposed to be all hot to be another Boelcke, or Ball, or Fonck in a dynamic campaign?

I'm just not ready...yet.

Sorry for the long post, but it makes me a bit sad to see people already proclaiming the death of ROF when it's only been out in the West for a month and change. This sim has given me something priceless in that short time: the feeling of really flying again.

To those of you reading this who are already feeling their fingers twitching with the urge to smite me with laughing 'fanboy' comments, I ask you to put yourself in my position for just a moment:

A lifelong lover of aviation, I'll likely never be able to fly a real plane again, thanks to this stupid affliction I have.

I've been a model airplane nut most of my life, but with my dominant left hand mostly shot, it'll be nothing short of miraculous if I can build another model.

Even if I can, I'll need help to fly it, since I can barely walk, and some days I have trouble just standing...for that matter, I'll almost certainly never walk on a path or enjoy being on a beach ever again. As in NEVER.

Four years ago, I was Mister Active Guy...fly all night, drive home in my sports car, take my little inflatable boat out to the lake and spend the day on the water, landing on little islands to lie on the sand, or head out to the field to fly my latest R/C plane.

Today, all of that is gone...but thanks to ROF I can still fire the PC up, get in the cockpit and fly again, forgetting all of the dismal crap for a while.

MS has robbed me of being able to do most of the things in my life I love...but ROF has given me back the feeling of being a pilot. If it wasn't that good, I wouldn't say it.

If you're still ready to laugh and point, hurl epithets, or the like, go for it. I hope it doesn't happen, but one day this could happen to you too. If so, I can only hope you too have something that can give you back a piece of your old life in the way ROF has for me.

Thanks, neoqb. Keep up the good work.

[MF] Gunloon

...you should see the extent some folks go to get their sticks as real as possible. Check this (you do have to sit through a commercial).

Link to Franken Stick

Gunloon, what a wonder life account you have written. You made me get all teary eyed.

It is great when it gives you that feeling deep in your soul, that only a true pilot knows.

Cheers.

....... ????? We are talking about airplane controls here, right!?!?

LOL!