I bought ROF, I bought the N.17 this afternoon (nice and smooth transaction btw, nice job neoqb)and i'm already in line for the SE5a and the Pfalz.

I will not purchase any additional A/C until the game is patched to meet my expectations for a complete game.

While I know someone is going to say "But it's challenging"; I have to comment regardless.

The N.17 is a 1916 era fighter. This game is currently balanced around late 1917 and 1918. I don't see the point in buying a plane when everything else fighting around it is more advanced. Perhaps once they update the game with patches and add more airplanes the N.17 will be an option. But until those two things happen my 7.62 is better spent other places.

I am curious why they decided to go with the N.17 instead of something that fits this time period better. Granted the SE5a is coming, but the SE5a or a Camel would have been a more fitting choice with what you are expected to dogfight against.

I've bought it, my son bought a copy, and I've got a few friends in Europe who are buying it as well. Trying to put our Squadron back together =)

As for the add-on planes, will probably purchase most eventually. Really enjoying this sim!

I'm a geezer what likes these crates. Crivens ! I LUV 'em as a matter of fact. How could I resist !

Because the Russians leased the Nieuport 17 from the french in WW1. And since this is a Russian made WW1 flight sim... Well it stands to reason.

Agree fully that it is an odd choice. Even stranger when you still end up facing Fokker D.VIIs in 1917!

It is still quite serviceable against the DVa, but a couple quality pilots in D.VIIs will make you day bad fast. But hell, who needs to worry about fighters, it is attacking the two seaters that scares me in ROF!

Tried again to buy and got the same error message:
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I followed Jason's advice yesterday and emailed Chronopay about the problem, but have heard nothing as of yet.

I of course purchased the sim and I did pick up the N 17.

However, until multi play is fixed, I'm done.

Why buy more stuff with no good place to fly them?

well there is the entire Western Front...and an excellent mission builder and triggers and timers and lots of AI enemy aircraft, vehicles, balloons etc...

so much to do, so little time

+1 Again.

Each of these planes are real gems to be savored.

Glad you know how to use it. I sure cannot make heads or tails out of it.

Where is the online dogfight capability? The ability to join missions in progress?

The dozens of servers that should be up and running online by now?

Why can't I host from behind a router?

Why is there no in game chat?

Why do the clouds look like an illustration from a children's book?

Why do the planes bounce off the ground when you crash like they are made of rubber?

Sorry Gents, but the new is wearing off. The sim has a lot to recommend it, but if it isn't brought up to a realistically finished state soon, and I mean really soon, it's doomed in the market. Great FMs and 3D models are only one component of a successful flight simulation. The rest of the content has to be forthcoming, and soon, or this thing is toast.

For you perhaps. But for die hard WW1 aviation nuts, not very likely old chap.

@ ElAurens: Admittedly the router issue needs to be fixed up and fast. Online dogfights, and the English ME manual also huge priorities. I don't however think it is close to dead in the water yet or soon. Once in the air this sim is giving alot of people what they haven't had before, they won't give up on that quickly. Sim crowds are different then game crowds that way I find.

(BTW, I am sure we have engaged in the IL-2 skies years upon years ago. Most of my online dogfighting was during the period between the Original IL-2, through IL-2 FB, then AEP I did very little, RL crap... so I do mean years ago lol, I would have been Arsenal in 401Sqn back then, you were probably shooting me down)

Sorry old bean, but this is a product. It is currently an unfinished one.

I want it to succeed, I really do.

But there is a very small window of opportunity that neoqb has to get it off the ground, so to speak. The modded IL2 WW1 package is on the horizon, and if RoF cannot establish it's online credentials before that happens then the onliners, like myself will simply move on to a proven online commodity.

Right now I cannot fly with my squadmates in this sim. We grow impatient, the rest of our squad are holding off buying the sim because of the lack of multiplayer options. I don't care how good the AI are, and they are fairly good in RoF, nothing, and I mean nothing matches the challenge offered by facing human opponents.

And in all honesty, "die hard WW 1 aviation nuts" are not a large enough demographic to support any sim on their own.

Are you so called "die hards" so emotionally tied to the time frame that you will accept unfinished work if it has a few (very well modeled) biplanes in it, and little else?

You are hurting your own cause with behavior like that.

Cheerio, old boy.

I think the poll is missing some options that would give a more accurate picture. I voted "didn't buy (unable to buy)" as it was the closest one, that is i'm unable to bring myself to a compromise with certain design decisions by Neoqb. It certainly would be interesting to see what holds people back from making a purchase, or more accurately, the % for each of the major gripes the "didn't buy" crowd has.

If a "gold" version is released at some point with more aircraft, working MP, a quality single player campaign and fully functional offline capability, i'll get it for sure. If not, well, i at least expect some of it to be there and will weigh the pros and cons again. For example, maybe the content remains poor but the online DRM is changed of vice versa, i would probably be willing to make a purchase.

I'm pretty much with ElAurens in this as far as the rest of it goes, i think his last post hit the nail on the head.

Ah I see. I need to whinge and complain and vent every 5 minutes and start calling everything toast when I don't get what I want when I want. Sounds virtuous.

A bit skewed polling since people that didn't buy ROF most likely will not come into this forum. I only come out of curiosity whilst I await the next Maddox sim.

I bought ROF and will buy all the planes.. eventually. Don't have a proper rig to play right now