http://www.neoqb.com/en/
Then:
http://www.neoqb.com/en/sphere/
Then:
http://www.kamaz.ru/en/company/about

Oh yeah, these guys too:
http://www.det-mir.ru/cntnt/english/company_in.html

and, way down in the basement slaving away in abject poverty, these guys:
http://riseofflight.com/?lang=en-US

I think they may have more support than some would have us believe.

I am not trying to start a row here but the: "a few poor guys struggling to bring us the next best thing while operating on a shostring and oh how fabulous that is indeed, let's buy anything they toss our way." posts have driven me to the above madness.

Defense of their online requirements have been mostly based on the loss of funds to pirates that a struggling young company simply cannot absorb.

One major reason to buy now has been, if we do not support them with our purchase thay may go under.

With "the largest automobile corporation of the Russian Federation." and "one of the largest world children’s goods retail." providers on their side I think they may be able to struggle through so maybe there could be a bit less "starving artist" sympathy.

It sure is a pretty game though.

Oops - is all this really the same NeoQB

The fact that they were hired by them, does not mean that they are constantly supported by them.

Errr right. So Neoqb have other clients and aren't just a WWI sim developer. Manchester City are buying some of the best players in the world but aren't too likely to actually win anything.

Btw, I'm pretty sure that Neoqb never said or implied this:

I love a good conspiracy theory but this certainly isn't one of them.

I do not believe the sentence you quoted begins with "Neoqb said or implied...."

Many supporters and even some not so supportive but avid WWI fans have used the "if we do not support" argument to justify buying what some consider an incomplete offering though, so what's the problem with some clarification?

OMG

You seem bitter. Perhaps you shouldn't care until it becomes more complete and you may decide to spend your money on it then?

I mean, it's not like other corporations have taken on smaller companies that produced a certain item and then gave them the axe when the return on their investment wasn't realized. Never happened before.

Whether or not Neoqb is a multinational blood-sucking conglomerate or a nickel and dime corner store does not matter one jot. If they make a profit, then it will flourish. It if makes a loss, no more flight sim.

*Insert conspiracy theory of choice.*

This is true. No company is too big to fail nor too small to succeed.

I remember you one part of last neoqb statement "Flight-simulations are a dying genre in PC gaming and the reasons are pretty obvious to the community. Our approach is not meant to offend, nor is it rooted in greed, it is simply a survival strategy. We hope you understand, even if you disagree with this approach."

So... do you think Ivanov is a lier (and a crook) ?

Whatever the founding company, there's a dev group behind RoF, that started the development under "Genadish" name, then had to find other founding.... and if the return on invest doesn't show, you can bet on the end of RoF... you wont loose...

Do you remember what happened recently to a development studio, that had a long and succesfull history behing, and that was founded by the largest software company in the world???... you know, the studio that developped the FS serie...

I'd like to bring your attention a little sim called Microsoft Flight Simulator. If you recall, the ACES studio was shut down earlier this year, even though MS' revenue is in the billions.

When big companies choose to downsize in a struggling economy, they need to trim the fat. Unfortunately, niche entertainment products are pretty high in calories. Just because Neoqb may be owned by a large corporation doesn't it'll stay in business if it's unprofitable.

Get a life man... I know from experience how quickly a flight sim can be pulled from development.

You either want a high fidelity WWI flightsim, or your post crap like that.

Guys, they are clearly crooks, we have all been had.
I think everyone should just stop playing and send me your copies of RoF and I will take it from here.

Thank you and have a nice day.

"Get a life man" and "You either want a high fidelity WWI flightsim, or your post crap like that."

Good ones, Piper....well, not really but ya tried, eh?

wickedpenguin,
It is true indeed that "Just because Neoqb may be owned by a large corporation doesn't it'll stay in business if it's unprofitable"

But if owned by said large corporation, it also follows that they may not be poverty stricken about to fold entity that deserve support based largely on that premise, which is a good part of the arguments pro ROF, right?

Look, no one called anyone crooks, I just posted info gathered from the link on the ROF homepage that may indicate that ROF is possibly not the poor stepchild of the flightsim world as put forth by some supporters as a reason to buy their stuff.

If the RoF Neoqb was the same exact entity or had the full support of the groups you mentioned, I seriously doubt they would be having a tough time setting up an online shop.

Sounds a little far-fetched, IMO.

In the end though, if it is the same people...who really cares?

I base my judgements on the product and support of the developers/team at hand, not how successful they are in other markets.

I'm a WW1 air war nut and early aviation enthusiast. I choose to support the neglected WW1 flight sim genre regardless of the developer's finances or lack thereof and I'm happy to do so because it's a niche market and feeds my hobby.

As for stoopid conspiracy theories based on ... wait for it .... info on the internet ! .... proves there is a non-discerning sucker born every minute.

Their website lists both those groups as clients under Movies/TV, which would suggest to me Neoqb probably did some television commercial work for them in some capacity.

That doesn't mean that both these groups own them or are paying for all their expenses, doing business with them might have netted them some money to continue development on Rise of Flight, and who knows how long ago that was, but insinuating that both groups are funding them is only wild speculation on your part.

Neocube, see the big-clue cube there

Like we call Rasputin Rasputin not whatever her name was in Russian

Creative marketing can come up with stuff about quantum bits after the fact but a quantum is not an object or a bit it is a quantity or an idea

We already are running quantum computers or they wouldn't work, tunneling magic

Ming

Whoa, the haters of this sim are really beginning to grab at straws now...

Yes, I remember- but I can still play FSX and FS2004- Can't I?

But you won't be playing ROF if Neoqb goes the way of " you know, the studio that developed the FS serie..."