Why do you play _any_ game for more than 15 minutes?

- It's brand new!
- Graphics, sounds, models are awesome! Looks good on my 40" monitor!
- All of my friends play it!
- Plenty of people are available for internet gaming at any moment!
- I played this game 20 years ago and will play it during the next 20 years...
- It gives me something all other things cannot give.
- Why? Because it's _insert name here_!

What's not enough in _EECH_?

- ...graphic effects. Look at modern games! Explosions, motion blur, glares and other shader stuff.
- ...hi-poly models. Those awkward angular spherical surfaces...
- ...sound environment. All of the sounds I here are the same, there is no variations!
- ...flight models. Those're not choppers, those are flying barrels with pair of rotors.
- ...detailed cockpits. You call five flat textures a cockpit?
- ...realistic instruments. Only half of gauges works, 95% of buttons and systems are not implemented.
- ...flyable machines. Heh? Only 5 and choppers only? It's boring...
- ...different units. A game without T-55 and Tu-16 is not a battle simulator! Where are large radars and unmanned aircrafts?
- ...infantry. Machine guns rule agains hordes of barbarians in jungles!
- ...realistic battles. Everybody stays and waits for being killed. Where are dashing cavalry ambush attacks, tanks crushing aircrafts by tracks on airfields?
- ...battle density. Have to fly for 20 minutes before reaching the enemy. And ground forces just wait and do nothing. Why don't tanks crush SAMs attacking me?
- ...battle tention. Why when enemy looses it does not call strategic bombers with nukes?
- ...interesting missions. I made BAI a hundreds thousands times. There's nothing new in the yet another BAI.
- ...rpg elements. Want -D instead of -A and Hellfires instead of rockets? Display yourself, rookie!
- ...interesting scripts. Missions say to capture military base. Why don't they say that our guys are held captures there and capturing the base we must not destroy the building with where they are inside?
- ...newness. Hey it's a ten-years-old game. I've dug it along and across even 5 years ago!
- ...perfomance. I've spent $4000 for modern hardware but framerate stopped at 30!
- ...network players. Offline is boring but noone plays a game.
- ...budget. Why don't they pay me for playing EE?!


Thereby... Why? and What?

Ummm, i do not fully understand the purpose of your post...

The only purpose is: I want feedback to make a decision. Please don't treat this text too serious, there are a lot of hyperbolizing, you know.
Also this feedback may help others to make their own decisions. Also this may... other things.
Thus, please answer the questions.

Desicion about what?

Hey, man, are you from KGB? You see, it's EECH forum. Also, those're EECH questions. Thus, decision about what? If you have nothing to answer - I can understand it.
So, I suppose this topic is about EECH. If you want to discuss me or yourself, please create another one.

Wha...?

Are you drunk? Or stoned? Or both?

Well, i do not drink alcohol, and thankfully nobody has throwed a stone to me lately :P

I like exploring the virtual 3d environment and checking out the creativity of the designers in the scenery. Also, suspense and discovery are key. I prefer more of a thinking game than a button mashing reaction-time dual.

I played nothing but eech for a couple years and developed some methods that worked very well for me to win the campaign every time so it was just a matter of going through the motions until the campaign was over. At some point playing the same game against the machine is going to get old. After playing every map I started making my own and that's what I've been doing since.


I think what hurt eech most is not having rock solid multi-player. Multi-player is what keeps a game interesting for most people.


I think eech has a lot of unexplored potential. When I was debugging my roads I had one side with all the ground forces. A group of tanks went half way across the map, were under attack several times, arrived at the enemy airbase and destroyed every single helicopter on the ground and some that were attempting to takeoff. I think they would have destroyed all the jets too if my road had extended deeper into the base. Anyway, it takes modders to figure these things out. It's probably too time consuming for most people and along with other reasons a lot of the modders have faded away.

I've tried to get back into playing eech a few times and it just hasn't worked. For one thing, my favorite mode 95% of the time is in a Apache with no cockpit. Something has happened to that so the mfd's are way too big. That's a show-stopper for me.

I'd love to see more reactive ground units - i.e. no grouping together in one spot and DX 8/9 shader effects... which would allow the holy grail - shiny water. I think the lack of shiny water is the #1 thing that separates EECH and Falcon from the newest gen sims such as IL-2, LOMAC and DCS Black Shark.

Arneh already fixed the second holy grail - high detail ground texture/detail when you get close to it. The sensation of speed close to the ground is phenomenal now.

However, the gameplay does not - it is pretty darned awesome how it is.

The third thing maybe would be the flight model - the tail rotor is far too powerful and you spin so fast, after flying DCS for a while I've gotten used to the sluggish helo feeling.