Forums » Air Combat & Civil Aviation » Rise of Flight - The First Great Air War » ROF Update Available


Page 7 of 7 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#2818002 - 07/14/09 10:54 AM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: Tolwyn]
Brigstock Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/30/00
Posts: 2519
Loc: London, England
I'm getting bored of this fanboy bollox. Because I like the game does not mean I am a fool.
There is a lot of comment in here by people who haven't bought the game, running it down.

If you were to visit here to get an idea of what the game is all about and how it runs, you will come away with a very negative impression. The impression built on comments from people who don't have the game.

Example above "if you have to update each time you start the game?"
No, you don't update everytime you start the game.

There has been 1 patch since the game was released on the NA market.

That is misinforming people visiting this board.

It is a WWI sim, the first for a long time.
It is a high fidelity product with an acccepted level of detail not seen in any flight sim so far.

Yes there are bugs that need fixing even the most devoted "fanboy" will admit that.
But the business model of NEOQB puts them in a position to fix those bugs and get those fixes to everyone at the same time. The planned release of new aircraft in a steady stream gives them a little stabilty to continue supporting the title.

what you buy when you purchase RoF is the base game, the core engine of the product, known as "Digital Nature".

It's a modular formular, with content added over time.

Unfortunately, if you browse this forum littered with negative comments by people who haven't even got the game.
_________________________
Brigstock
----------------
EAF92 Brigstock in IL2
WW1EAF Brigstock in RoF
92 Squadron

European Airforce


Top
#2818020 - 07/14/09 11:15 AM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: Tolwyn]
-Avatar- Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 3934
Loc: CT, USA
Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
Actually, why even start a thread that an update is available if you have to update each time you start the game?


Maybe to let others know who are at work or not playing at the moment know that one has been released and they'll see the opportunity to update at next playing session.

Quote:
Am I the only person that finds that a bit... wierd?


Weird? I don't think so. Necessary? Definitely not. I'm sure there are others who will feel similar to you. smile
_________________________
Avatar

Asus P8Z68 Deluxe, i7 2700k @4.7GHz, EVGA GTX570HD 295.73s, 1x120gb SSD, 2x150gb WD Raptors, 2x200gb SATA, 16gb G.Skill DDR3 2130, 1000W PS, HP DVD-RW, Onboard sound, 32" Sony Bravia XBR, Win7 Pro 64bit, Tai Chi watercooled case

Top
#2818028 - 07/14/09 11:26 AM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: Brigstock]
Toadvine Offline
Member

Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 548
Loc: Seattle
Unfortunately, if you browse this forum littered with negative comments by people who haven't even got the game.

The armchair critics analyzing RoF with a 10 foot pole are really something. Never even played the game and know all about how flawed it is! If you haven't experienced the game first hand, all arguments and criticism are based in ignorance, that's the bottom line.

Top
#2818107 - 07/14/09 01:05 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: -Avatar-]
bisher Offline
I'll be your Huckleberry
Hotshot

Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 9010
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
Tolwyn.........

Jeez I'm trying to think of something mature and constructive to say, but I just can't.

Well done Avatar.
_________________________
The spiders all in tune

Top
#2818410 - 07/14/09 04:13 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: Toadvine]
Blackdog_kt Offline
Member

Registered: 01/26/08
Posts: 677
Originally Posted By: TailFlamer
LOL, you are correct. I mean there is no point. It isn't like you have 'get' it. It will be gotten as soon as you click on the launcher. It doesn't even ask if you want it, it just does it.

I did try to answer your question, as best I could. And as far as I know there is no way to download it, save it and then apply it later. It does it automatically via the launcher. It doesn't give you a regular download box where it says run or save. It just runs right there in front of you.

I'm not complaining about it.

Also, I understand you. I'm the same way with iRacing. I don't care how good it may or may not be, I don't do subscription games. RoF is as close as I care to get to that type marketing. I can understand you not wanting to go with the RoF way of doing things. Many don't.


Actually, some subscription based games are more user friendly in that regard. I used to play a space/sci-fi MMO game and while you did need the latest version to play (it was a server cluster with a single persistent world), you could also manually download the patches.

It was good, because you could download it at your leisure or even at work and get it on a flash drive, then apply it at home to save time. There's lot's of traffic when a game that gets a few dozens of thousands concurrent logins releases a patch and if you waited to auto-update when you wanted to play it could really cut into your gameplay time.

The other neat thing is that even if you used the auto-updater, each patch was saved in the game's cache folder. You could move them somewhere safe and in the case of a reinstall you could apply them in sequence on top of the base client and be ready to go in a matter of minutes, instead of having to download the almost 1GB client of the latest version.

Assuming it's mandatory for people to have the latest version, maybe it would be a good idea to make sure they can download patches at their own leisure. On the other hand, i see nothing justifying this requirement when the game is not offering a peristent multiplayer world. It's far simpler to have both options and let each person decide if they want to auto-update, or wait for the first bug reports and then do it manually.

Now i know someone is bound to appear out of the shadows, point at my post count and then ask me if i own the game, but this is totally irrelevant to the matter at hand and previous experience from other titles, both of manual update and mandatory update nature, is enough to know what one is getting into with each update method. As someone else said earlier, there are millions of combinations of PC hardware and OS configurations. Due to that, sometimes a patch breaks more than it fixes.
What happens in such a case when you can't revert back to the previous version is simply a bunch of angry customers and bad publicity. I've seen it happen with that MMO game i referred to earlier whenever scheduled downtimes or patch deployments went wrong and believe me, if you think people are bashing developers in these forums you ain't seen nothing yet hahaha

Top
#2819182 - 07/15/09 02:02 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: Blackdog_kt]
Tolwyn Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 02/06/00
Posts: 3725
Loc: WA, United States
Fanboy bollox aside, I didn't ask a demeaning question about the game, just a question. My other posts about the game are very favorable, thanks. Too many people just don't (or can't?) read.

The game in and of itself I've no problem with, the administrative distribution and all the back-end stuff to play it, have to pass my personal "muster" before I fork over the dollars.

I wouldn't accept a free copy of Lomac or any of it's addons for very specific reasons. My point is, why is my own personal "purchase" criteria under fanboy attack when I'm just asking questions?

Is lomac a cool game? ABSOLUTELY.
Is ROF a cool game? ABSOLUTELY. I'm not arguing about any thing to do with the game, only some other things.
_________________________
My personal licensing agreement: In exchange for my hard-earned cash for your product, you agree to the following terms: No part of my hardware may be used as a mechanism to verify or reverify my economical patronage. My receipt will serve that purpose. If you disagree with this license, you may return my money to me, and I'll return your product. \:\)

Top
#2819200 - 07/15/09 02:26 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: -Avatar-]
DD_JoeBob Offline
Member

Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 212
Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
Originally Posted By: -Avatar-
Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
Actually, why even start a thread that an update is available if you have to update each time you start the game?


Maybe to let others know who are at work or not playing at the moment know that one has been released and they'll see the opportunity to update at next playing session.

Quote:
Am I the only person that finds that a bit... wierd?


Weird? I don't think so. Necessary? Definitely not. I'm sure there are others who will feel similar to you. smile


And, as the person who started the thread ... smile ... that was exactly the reason I posted it. There were a lot of people who were very interested to see the first patch and I thought it noteworthy to advise people that it was out.

Judging by the comments immediately following my post I'd have to say I was right, people were interested.

As always YMMV.

WH_JoeBob
_________________________
I'm a Chickenhawk and you're my victim, ya gonna come along quiet or do I gotta muss ya up?

Top
#2819215 - 07/15/09 02:52 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: DD_JoeBob]
TailFlamer Offline
Member

Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 2042
Loc: Hickory, NC. USA
I didn't mean any disrespect. But I did/do agree that in the way RoF updates, it is kinda pointless. I doubt anyway is saying, I ain't launching the game until we get a patch. Myself included and I can hardly even play with the view system the way it currently is for me. Yet I still do try, some. So everyone with the game is going to get the patch the next time they launch it anyway.

And it goes along with what Blackdog said about everyone logging in at the same time could stress the server. So really it might be better if they are not announced and just let everyone find it the next time they launch the game.

However, on the other side of things, it seems all went very smooth. I didn't notice anyone saying their game locked up at the 'checking for update' menu. I suppose that could happen, but it didn't, that I know of.
_________________________
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
FIA Formula One World Championship

Top
#2819236 - 07/15/09 03:19 PM Re: ROF Update???? [Re: TailFlamer]
DD_JoeBob Offline
Member

Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 212
Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
No disrespect taken ... it's a free country smile

In my case I don't necessarily boot up ROF every day and I'D want to know if there was an update that provided improvements.

But that's just me ...

WH_JoeBob
_________________________
I'm a Chickenhawk and you're my victim, ya gonna come along quiet or do I gotta muss ya up?

Top
Page 7 of 7 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:

Moderator:  EinsteinEP 

Forum Use Agreement | Privacy Statement | SimHQ Staff
Copyright 1997-2012, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.