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#2768610 - 12/05/06 06:09 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Other than all the above, and a bunch of minor bugs like vanishing ground textures at low altitude and very buggy collision detection, the game is pretty good fun. Not yet a simulator, but certainly a couple of notches above arcade blaster. Needs a fair bit of work to bring it up to proper sim standard (you know, where you can fool yourself you're a real WW1 pilot etc [Big Grin] ).
I think this paragraph from his first post pretty much set the tone....
Joke em if they can't take a....
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#2768612 - 12/05/06 06:34 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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He didn't waste any time confirming the first impression he left, either.
Joke em if they can't take a....
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#2768613 - 12/05/06 06:37 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Something to remember -- TK isn't building this sim for us. He's building it for more-casual gamers, none of whom give a fig for any of the nits we pick. All they care about is that they get to blow up Fokkers. On the other hand, TK makes it pretty easy for us grognards to season to taste ... 
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#2768615 - 12/05/06 07:53 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Oh, now insult the mentally handicapped. Very nice. Goes well with naming yourself after a Nazi.
column5.us "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
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#2768616 - 12/05/06 07:53 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by Boilerplate:
Perhaps because it was offensive?
His follow up post is very revealing. His most recent post is even more so.
column5.us "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
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#2768617 - 12/05/06 08:00 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by Sepp: Having given the game a good go it's more than obvious that the developers had about as much passion and pride in this release as your average man has in putting together a cheese and pickle sandwich. Sloppy, drippy, half-arsed, lazy and definitely not cooked (well toasted though). Not even attempted to be finished, just slapped together and dumped out the back door. No, come on chaps, I'm having a good laugh here, imagining them dragging it over to the back door, leading to a dank alleyway, opening it and kicking it out..."Gah on, feck orf attafit, we're done wiv ya!"
Yes, I'm aware of the myriad fixes being posted, I've implemented some myself...but how many are there now? And how time consuming? The one that fixes the propensity for the a/c to fall apart in mid air as soon as they get hit in a wing by a couple of bullets...I've extracted the a/c data files, and see multiple entries for each component that needs to be changed from "HEAVY" or "DESTROYED" to "DISABLED". Gee, you know what, I thought that was what I'd paid my money for, that the guys selling the game were supposed to have done all that...researched the subject, established what bullets generally did to WW1 a/c in flight and somewhat faithfully reproduced it in their game (you know, like what Oleg was able to do out of the box with his WW2 a/c in IL2...or, dare I mention it, the guys who made RB2!).
Shiftless, zero pride...a rather shabby and shonky pile of poorly cobbled together code masquerading as a sim-lite.
So now we'll wait for some hero to spend weeks fixing everything that can be fixed (because we'll soon see how badly the engine will limit that faint hope) and pray it finally gives us something even vaguely close to RB2-3D with super graphics (because FE does at least look gorgeous).
I don't know about not enough pride to even pretend to make an effort making this game, I've got too much pride to bloody well play it's appalling ****eness.
That's my opinion chaps, your mileage may vary (something along the lines of your pride = the glass is half full apparently...ROTFFLMFAO!). 
(By the way, how many of you would take delivery of a brand new car, find paint peeling off it but drive it around anyway, with a big smile on your face whilst declaring "Hey, the wheels ain't falling off...half glass full, yipee!" ). Sepp... I for my part appreciate your opinion. Now, would you consider to send the posting above directly to TK and Thirdwire - not toned down but word for word? If not, why would it be a problem for you? After all, you're stating your honest dissatisfaction as a customer of a product you purchased.
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#2768618 - 12/05/06 08:02 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by Sepp: Originally posted by Boilerplate:
Perhaps because it was offensive?
His follow up post is very revealing. Spew away oh great orator.... you're just digging your ditch deeper. 
It's a Game. 
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#2768619 - 12/05/06 08:13 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by Boilerplate: Originally posted by Sepp: Originally posted by Boilerplate:
Perhaps because it was offensive?
His follow up post is very revealing.
column5.us "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
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#2768622 - 12/05/06 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Boilerplate:
I'd say he behaves most like our old friend GiGi Kent in the SFP1 forum. Remember him c5? Yeah I remember Mr. Gigglesworth. I had that guy convinced I was Romanian! 
column5.us "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
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#2768624 - 12/05/06 10:33 PM
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He doesn't know **** about WWII either.
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#2768625 - 12/05/06 10:44 PM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by Boilerplate:
Bună /Salut! Vehicolul meu pe pernă de aer e plin cu ţipari!!!
column5.us "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
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#2768626 - 12/06/06 12:23 AM
Re: Ground strafing.
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Originally posted by column5: Originally posted by Boilerplate:
Bună /Salut! Luftputefartøyet mitt er fullt av ål!
It's a Game.
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#2768627 - 12/06/06 12:41 AM
Re: Ground strafing.
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It's clear to see the standard of membership has fallen significantly since I first registered here so many years ago. Somewhat reminiscent of a forum dedicated to Playstation or XBox owners. That might be because SimHQ has stated it now intends to consider certain console titles as legitimate simulations (yeah, I know, that slayed me too ). Is that beginning to attract the wrong crowd? The consoles have successfully dumbed down the average PC game, now it looks like they might be responsible for contributing to the dumbing down of former simulation forums like SimHQ. There was a time when a game like First Eagles would have had more chance of winning PC Game of the Year than of being featured at SimHQ, never mind being given it's own forum (  ). No, seriously... And look at the kind of brats it's dragged in with it. One posts an opinion, ascerbic as it may or may not be, and one is instantly flamed by a breed of console fanboi. Classic! I'm done *****-slapping you 'tards. I have better things to do (like picking my nose), and your total lack of wit has rendered this boring now anyway. Go play your console WW1 blaster and stop crying and whining every time somebody says he isn't much impressed by it and takes the trouble to explain why.
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