What would you like to see in EECH 2?

I personally would like to Keep the dynamic campaing with the options server side to switch on or off the ability to see your enemys position on the map screen.

And allso individual 3d TIR 6dof cockpits for all flyable's..well if ya don't ask you don't get lol!

Updated, Rock solid Multiplayer

Pilot/Gunner positions during Multiplayer

Dynamic Campaign (as EECH has)

Hind and Cobra Cockpits.

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Choppers used in context

More trees and ground clutter

Flyable AH-64D.
Fully modelled avionics including autorotation.
Flyable AH-64D.
Pilot and CP/G in MP.
Flyable AH-64D.
Reallistic flight-model.
Flyable AH-64D.
Trees.
Flyable AH-64D.
Easy to use mission- and terrain-editor + mod-tools (for new units and vehicles).

...And finally, I want the title changed to Longbow 3 and have the product live up to the name

EECH 2 as a name is OK by me, since the DC in EECH is way beyond that of LB2.
I fully agree on
Flyable AH-64D

Still I wonder, why was there no showing of EECH2 at e.g. E3expo ?
Hope it's no vapourware ... this EECH 2 was predicted many months ago as well, but has no publisher yet ? Strange.

first, it should be moddable
second, it should be moddable
and third it should be moddable!

I want homemade campaigns and textures, sounds, models

Same here

The dynamic campaign is the heart of this game. Nice rhyme, eh?

Would be nice.

1- Improve the already existing campaigns so that "assimetrical" warfare/campaigns can be possible. I like very much the concept of the dynamic campaigns we have in EEAH/EECH but what I didn't like was that both sides always have identical equipment in terms of capabilities (Blue side/Red side: M-1 Abrams/T-80U, AH-64/Mi28, Mig-29/F-16, F-18/Su-33, Comanche/Ka-52, etc...). It would be much better and realistic if both sides weren't balanced. (for example an Afganistan campaign were the red side is composed entirelly of soldiers, without any advanced equipment such as helicopters or tanks).

2- Also related to 1), I would like to see a realistic order of battle in EE2 campaigns. No more stuff such as T-80Us, Mi-28, Ka-50/52 or Su-33 for the armed forces of countries such as Syria or Cuba (and others). This also obviously means that the Comanche should be removed from EE2 (the best IMO would be to replace it with the AH-1Z even because they have quite similar cockpits).

3- Improved defence capability or balanced capability for the ground units against enemy air units. Currently as it is, a flight of 2 helo gunships is capable of devastating a batallion of tanks!

4- Like it was said before: Pilot/Gunner positions during Multiplayer!

A flight of gunships can devastate a batallion of tanks. Thats what they are made for. 16 HFs should mean 16 tanks out of action. Can you explain a little more why you dont think its right that just a pair of helos can do so much damage?
Or did I missunderstand you?

Dynamic Campaign
Pilot/Gunner Co-op multiplayer
Flyable AH-1Z

Might as well include this thread ,,,

Wish List

,,,into this thread. We've been working on it for some time now.

And just to add to the suspense and thicken the plot a bit, we have had a couple of guys go missing from the EECH forum that were regular contributors. Wonder what they are doing????
And what are all these "new" guys modding away in the EECH forum? Where did they come from?
Lets see,, 2+2=4 4+4=8 ,,, a disapperance, a new modder, a coincidence maybe?

muuuhhaaaaaaaaaa

Woah! you'll see i never posted in that thread KC..musta missed that one!

Thx for the link

I'll fourth that. It should be moddable.
With a new-map tool too, along with the campaigns and textures.

Yes, I admit I was very brief with that point of mine and I could have explain myself better. Yes, it's true that for example the Apache Longbow has 16 Hellfires plus the radar and it can anihilate 16 tanks/vehicles quickly. But it also happens that the enemy ground formations like we see in EEAH/CH have air defence units (Avengers, SA-13, etc...) and what currently happens in EECH is that those air defence units rarelly open fire against enemy air units specially if it's an AI versus AI engagement. IMO more active or better air defence units should at least limit the sucess or the number of kills from enemy helos not to mention the capability to shot down or heavily damage the enemy helos.
But of course the Apache Longbow is a formidable helicopter gunship and together with it's radar it gives it a great advantage over enemy air defences but even so things such as a cautious pilot/crew should definitly be modeled (which could in some cases limit the number of kills).

An another case are less capable or less advanced helos such as the Mi-24 Hind which doesn't carry radar and have a limited number of missiles (and these missiles effectiveness against an M-1 Abrams are something doubfull). I noticed that a flight of lets say 2 Hinds in EECH is capable of decimating an entire ground formation and again the air defences do nothing (in most cases) and this shoudn't happen even because when helicopters such as Hinds attacks, they do it by exposing themselfs completly.

I hope to have explain myself better this time...

A mission editor would go down nice too

I agree, Ricnunes. I just didnt know the details on how the AI work in EECH.
Makes perfect sense now

Modeling of weapons accurate to the Soviet arsenal and use:

- Bombs (500-100kg mers), ODABs, ZABs and submunition dispensers (KGMU and RBK)
- Properly modeled SACLOS radio command guidance for the 9M114 and 9M120 and laser beam riding spiral flight for the 9A1472 missiles (on the Kamovs)
- Large caliber rockets (S-24, S-25) and modeling of dispersion for rockets in flight
- Large caliber air-to-ground missiles (eg. Kh-25)
- Increase in the variety of existing weapons (eg. R-73, R-60 (single and twin rack), Strela (twin and four racks), gunpods (GUV-8700 miniguns and grenades) .

Also, of course, working infantry, improved campaign flexibility (larger and smaller formations, better command AI) and two seater flight...

ADF-pattern Eurocopter Tiger

Everything else said above.

Glad I could explain myself better this time.


By the way, I have 2 addicional requests for this wish list:

1- Add new ground units so that "less advanced" armies (which are the vast majority in the world) can be modeled. These new vehicles should include among many others the T-72! Currently the only "Red MBT" is the T-80U and as many probably know this isn't a tank which is in service within many countries in the world specially when compared to the T-72.
Other vehicles that should be added in EE2 should be the T-55, T-62, Towed Howitzers (D-30 for example), the ZSU-23-4 Shilka is a MUST BE for similar reasons as the T-72! I'm sure that there are others that could be added, but these I think are the most vital.
Also it should be added for the "blue side" some non-US made vehicles such as the Leopard 1 and 2 MBTs, Challenger 2, LavIII, PZH2000, towed howitzers, the already mentioned Tiger helicopter, etc...

2- I would be great if we finally have transport helicopters modeled in EE2. IMO it's great to also have insertions/extractions missions and not only "gunship" missions in a helo sim.
For this the helos that should be modeled IMO should be definitly the Hind for the red side (this way EE2 could finally become a worthy sucessor for DI's Hind ) and for the blue side the UH-60 Blackhawk. I would also like to see the UH-1Y modeled in EE2 on order to have some Marine inserions/extractions.

I hope I'm not asking for too much