First Please make your post about the problem and not a debate on how I should accept low FPS. Ok know that is over.

I have Really bad suturing and a slide shoe when I get in to combat with aircraft in the Career missions even if
I am not at the line. I was doing a cargo escort mission where you circle around trucks, and the FPS is fine a few jumps
ever 30 sec. but when the Enemy shows and I start turn and banking to fight it is like a slid shoe and I just can not play
the game unless I let the autopilot take over then I win, other wise I lose because of the low Performance.

Know I have updated drivers for Sound, network, video, but still no joy so I went to a different sound card like Jeevz did for
him self and that worked then today same problem with the sound card that I had with the on board sound a Realtek HD thing. one
last thing that I am going to try is USB head set sound card. and see if that works if you have any help please let me know.

EDIT: Specs Gigabyte mother bored with Realtek audio HD sonund card, AMD Athlon 64 Duel core 6000+ 3.10 GHz,
4 gig of ddr2 ram, EVGA nivida 8800 GTS KO OC 640mem, Windows Vista 64 Ultimate. Hope It helps

[Edit ADD 07/06/09 by Alanthegrate: to complete the story.]

OK I fond the two main problems to my Performance drop off . First what the settings of RoF . I attached a Pic to see the settings. I found that the Higher Resolution was better with this settings then going lower. I did not know why but the higher resolution was better. Also when I put Landscape to high was a big hit to the frame rate so med was way better low did not make a difference. And the Reflection was a hit also so I put that to off did not see a difference in the looks of the game. Last Anti-aliasing and Bilinear that Anti-aliasing mad no difference but the Filter did so that is why Bilinear. Also Post effects was a hit so that is not on also. Note I did this test After I found the other problem and that was my memory sticks they where high end memory stick by OCZ memory and they where on the compatible list for my mother bored but when I put in the Trident memory I got a medium improvement in the game but as I noted above I still could not go all the way with my settings so It still might be my sound card or my video card which have no problems with games except Crysis.

Does disabling vsync help?

Ming

Without computer specs it is impossible, I have core2 2.4 2 g sdram 667mhz Geforce 7800GTX 512 Meg and I can play multiplayer to a degree with some freezes with high activity but usually around 25-30 FPS with everything turned low or off, but I just have to except that till I get my up grade parts (I have ordered 4 G of Ram at 800Mhz and a Geforce 260GTX 894 Meg) and I am not sure that will solve the problem but because I have an older xps 700 I cannot change the cpu much.

What sort of PC do you have Alanthegrate?

Just guessing, but maybe the bottleneck is the cpu rather then the graphics card. If you can overclock the cpu easily it may be worth trying - I read somewhere that all the bullets and the controlling of the AI slows down the game, and that would be the cpu.

Rof have stated that the game uses quads, and it may be in areas like these a good quad is important.

And/or memory.

Just my 2 cents worth ...

I am so stuped I forgot to post the Specs. On the games settings I have all the Post Effects off, the trees high, grass med, shadows med, landscape mid, textures, high, reflection high, Filter X8, Antialiasing 2.

Gigabyte mother bored with Realtek audio HD sonund card, AMD Athlon 64 Duel core 6000+ 3.10 GHz,
4 gig of ddr 2 ram, EVGA nivida 8800 GTS KO OC 640mem, Windows Vista 64 Ultimate. Hope It helps

What resolution are you running the game in? And is it the default one for your monitor?

1680X1050 yes it is the default for my monitor. also to add in Single player missions I have no Perfomance drop.

I'll go on a limb here and guess your realtek soundcard is an on boaard version. On board sound cards have been known to cause FPS drops.

If that's the cause of your problems you either have to buy a separate sound card or a USB headset that functions on different drivers. You could borrow such a headset from someone to test if your soundcard is indeed the problem, plug it in and if it works fine then it's the Realtek. Another thing to try is to update the drivers for the realtek.

And finally, read more of the tech support forums, on board soundcards have been a known issue for days now

yeah, could be something with sound card. You should also check the bit rate your sound card supports, make sure its in synch with that in RoF - mine wasn't. not huge differece, but some in FPS. Also fiddle with hardware acceleration on card. Again maybe not a biggie.

Have you disabled PhysX on video card? A tip from WWBian, should increase framerates a bit again, and not needed in RoF.

Also, re cpu versus gpu, run the game on lower resolution as a test to see where bottlenecks are, even 1024x768 if possible. If it goes lots better its the graphics card more n' likely, if its the same its something else, quite possibly the cpu or sound card.

Thanks intramile I will try that. Ans Blackdog_kt thanks for the info I have tryed a other sound card same thing. But have not tryed the USB Head set. Plus no problems with FSX of any other flight sim or FPS so far, with my onborad sound chip. How do I shut off the PhysX i did not know I could do that.

It's in the nvidia control panel Alan, under PhysX configuration. just a simple enable/disable toggle.

You'll need PhysX again for that underwater FPS on the way, sounds interesting. What was that beautiful underwater adventure created by a German team I think. Cutting edge graphics, that might be them again. Bluebottle? Bluebyte maybe. Blue was in there anyway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedean_Dynasty

Ming
Where Are They Now Inc

Thanks WWBrian, but it made it worse lol. I am out of Ideas. Also went to the lowest Resolution and still had the problem not as bad but still very bad I have a good system.

Open Windows task manager before playing and go to CPU performance tab, now direct after you facing the performance drop, what is the CPU log pointing at. If you notice a peak at the history log this could be your CPU is limited.

I do not know if your AMD 64 X2 6000+ can run RoF, but you could try a program like Enditall or some same program is at the ATI web site do not get the right name now, what this software does, is closing every not necessary programs, but be careful not to close your Internet, Joystick, etc.

Seems like your cpu Alanthegrate, if your checked all the sound stuff. Have you tried overclocking?

Yikes!

I trust you re-clicked to enable then...

Hmmm... not exactly sure how disabling PhysX can make things get worse... unless theres some sort of underlying nvidia driver stuff going on there...

May want to post your dxdiag, so folks can see what's goin on with your video and sound drivers.

Good luck.

WWbrian where sould I post it here?

I don't see why not Alan. There's alot of junk in the printout that you really dont need to post.

You basically just want to launch dxdiag and look at it - then post your Sound Card Name and Driver Version.

and your Video Card Name and driver version.

..also, if while looking at those pages, if you happen to see on the bottom anything that doesn't look right in the Notes: section....list that as well.

...this way someone here will be able to notice old drivers if I'm not here to respond.

Alot of smart folks around here.



We'll pool our resources and get you up in the air one way or another!!

<S!>

ok so here is what I found for working the settup of the game. Also ajusting things so that I can find if it is the sound driver\mother bored, It is I don't know. so I have ajusted the video card for quity to proformence no change I lowered the Res nothing, I watche the cpu and fond that the game using 18 threids and NT kernel & system is taking 131 threds. the PhysX made no differnce on or off. I found I do get a little small Imprvment with seting the card to be in Proformence mode. als so have over clocked the cpy and pci express it did not help. But it help wiht FSX big time.

DXdaig stuff sory it is long tryed to make it smaller.

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System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
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Other Files:
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HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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Default Voice Playback: No
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Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
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WHQL Logo'd: Yes
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Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
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Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5780 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 1/20/2009 00:12:54, 1699744 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
Description: Realtek Digital Input (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
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Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
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Name: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
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Driver: n/a

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Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&9A
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Name: Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller
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Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
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WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,11.00.6001.7106
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.16670
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.00.6001.18000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.00.6002.16670
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6002.16670
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.16670
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.16670
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.16670
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Sink,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6000.16386
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6002.16670
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.16670
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.16670
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.16670
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.16670
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6002.16670
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.6001.18000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6002.16670
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.16670
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.6002.16670
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6002.16670
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.16670
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.16670

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.16670

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (Realtek High Defini,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Realtek Digital Input (Realtek ,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.6002.16670

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.16670
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.16670
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.16670
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.16670

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.16670

Driver Version: 8.15.0011.8618 (English)

186.18 are not the latest WHQL drivers

I asked earlier



Ming

i was getting good fps from the word go, but a buddy of mine wasnt, so i helped him out, we spent an hour or so messing with settings and testing, and i found setting filtering to bilinear (bit old fashioned i know) instead of anisotropic gave a massive boost, and it didnt hurt the visual quality much at all, i also use AA on 2x as that was causing a bit of fps loss.

Hello Ming, yes I did disbled vsync, No joy. also droped the filter, to bilinaer. The Filter droped to bilinaer help a little but still get skiping and it is hard to dogfight.

OK I fond the two main problems to my Performance drop off . First what the settings of RoF . I attached a Pic to see the settings. I found that the Higher Resolution was better with this settings then going lower. I did not know why but the higher resolution was better. Also when I put Landscape to high was a big hit to the frame rate so med was way better low did not make a difference. And the Reflection was a hit also so I put that to off did not see a difference in the looks of the game. Last Anti-aliasing and Bilinear that Anti-aliasing mad no difference but the Filter did so that is why Bilinear. Also Post effects was a hit so that is not on also. Note I did this test After I found the other problem and that was my memory sticks they where high end memory stick by OCZ memory and they where on the compatible list for my mother bored but when I put in the Trident memory I got a medium improvement in the game but as I noted above I still could not go all the way with my settings so It still might be my sound card or my video card which have no problems with games except Crysis.

Specs Gigabyte mother bored with Realtek audio HD sonund card, AMD Athlon 64 Duel core 6000+ 3.10 GHz,
4 gig of ddr2 ram, EVGA nivida 8800 GTS KO OC 640mem, Windows Vista 64 Ultimate. Hope It helps

Alan,

Glad you were able to getting it running better. :-)

Jason

alan untick each of those POST effects, then untick the main post one, should offer a performance increase.

As long as the main post one is unticked it shouldn't make a difference to the memory usage if the others are ticked or not.

It still might be my sound card or my video card

You can temporarily Disable sound from Control Panel/Device Manager, see what difference that makes, get a clue if soundcard drivers are doing ok

It's difficult to know how one's system is performing without benchmarking to find out where the bottlenecks are. Is my system running something slowly because my graphics card is the bottleneck, or perhaps the motherboard or CPU is the bottleneck

If I had a problem with a game running slowly I would first find out how similar systems to mine are performing under the same game, same settings: there might be nothing to be done but lower quality settings or screen resolution. Then I'd run a benchmark like 3DMark Vantage that'll tell me how my graphics system is running, make a few changes, see if anything helps. Then I might overclock whatever I can wherever I can after installing a flow-through cooling system

Running in a window vs running fullscreen might be worth checking, and a full defragmentation of your hard drive, pagefile usage etc might be worth looking at. For example, if I saw the disk access LED lighting up in sync with pauses onscreen I would check that my pagefile 'virtual memory' was not heavily fragmented or set too small to be useful

RoF uses CPU or CPUs very intensively for physics, upgrading one's videocard to get more fps may not be so useful as a CPU upgrade (or overclocking the CPU without needing the fire brigade on standby)

Ming