Pros:
Good Graphics
Flight model seems pretty good, but I wouldn't say it's better than IL2.

Cons:
Almost no content
No "dogfight" style servers
Awful AI. Worse AI than IL2, an eight year old game
Worst, voice, acting, ever.
Ground War/AAA far worse implementation than IL2
Ridiculous DRM

Yes, I'm comparing it to IL2, a WWII sim. It's the gold standard for this sort of thing, IMO.

"Awful AI. Worse AI than IL2, an eight year old game"

Interesting. I find them extremely good, in every way. If you fly the Fokker D7 against the N28 it will try to extend, if your in the Spad against the N28 (LOL) it will try to outturn you. Pretty smart imo.

They are also far more capable when they have room to maneouvre, ie, at height, not on the deck.

Ground war seems good to me - immersive. They could do more of course. But never liked Il2 in that regard. At all.

This game is a techdemo.

The content you are getting for your money is nearly equal to a game demo you download for most big games.

I would not recommend this game unless you paid 15 bucks for it and just wanted to fly around and maybe small dog fights with friends (although even that seems like a demo..)

I don't think that AI so bad at least I think so after almost four weeks of playing it.
Also I don't think it's fare to compare flight model to another simulator. IL2 has a lot of problem and fixed with its flight model up to date.

I agree the game by itself missing a touch like it was in Red Baron II or Knights of the Sky; nevertheless, I like idea with hangar and airplane. I wish developers could expend this concept to make it more immerse

Well my friend you would appreciate this game more if you had to pay $50 in hour to fly #%&*$# AST 300 sim with outdated graphics

I guess its' all in what you like. I never was a big fan of IL-2, and I personally wouldn't call it the gold standard. I think the current iteration of BOBII is the BEST WWII sim out there.

As far as ROF, I wasn't too impressed with it at first, but, after getting into the campaign its' showing potential. I think long-term with some patches the game will be a viable contender for greatness.

The FM IMHO is very good as well, but, I admit, getting proficient with the MGs is hard in ROF. Practice, practice, practice.

I don't understand how anyone can compare IL2 FM and ROF.... maybe because people that never piloted an aircraft and learned from sims. To me, FM seems very dynamic and lifelike - way better than IL2 which back then was a king. Now DCS with Ka50 is the winner and ROF with WW1 aircraft are.

I always find it interesting when people discuss flight models and talk about how real or unrealistic an FM is. Unless you've actually flown the aircraft all your information is speculation or at best second hand information. I personally like reading FSX add-on reviews by people who are maybe 1st rate cessna jockeys at best, yet they somehow know how a 747 is suppose to handle.

I have been playing RoF for all of 1h20m. I spent the first hour waiting for load screens, restarting the game, and configuring my controllers. Why? Because the configuration menu is a POS. No matter what I did I could not invert a controller. So my rudder pedals were backwards and then my throttle was backwards. The only way I fixed it was through notepad.

The graphics are so-so. I like the fact that the trees are real and abundant. The aircraft look pretty good. But the landscape just don't look natural and at distance looks blocky and far from smooth.

Flying is alright if you can get the a/c off the ground. Being that I can't change the sensitivity on my controllers through the settings options its very touchy.

The interface is another POS. How many freaking times do you want me to click stuff? I am sorry but once I click start, don't have me clicking start again once the mission actually loads.

If I wasn't an aviation and history buff I would have said screw it to this game an hour ago. -Also helps I know a bit about computers.

RoF is a disaster of a flight simulation. I didn't pay to beta test a game. Once RoF makes the review circuit around the internet, Neoqb will be lucky to sell more boxes. This is an awful release of a computer and I have no clue how some people can praise it.

I have RoF. I got it on Friday and like the majority of the people I had to jump through fiery hoops to get it to work. For someone who knows little about computers and editing files it is a complete disaster. If it is so good, and so easy to install (like some claim) why are there 62 threads and almost 650 posts in the Technical Support forum. Until they get the bugs out and release some more flyables (I abhor SPADS) it's going on the shelf and I'm going back to OFF-Between Heaven and Hell. IMO at this point it's head and shoulders above RoF anyway.

CJ

Every person associated with BETA testing of ROF should be sent off to Prison. It's a crime what they let though in terms of GUI, Control configuration, etc. Seems to me all they looked at was "...is it pretty and can you take off into the wild blue yonder".

What a joke/failure on the part of the so-called Beta "team".

As I have pointed out in another thread with a similar statement I have to say that I resent your comments. There has been a lot of hard work put in to get this as bug free as possible. We have done and continue to do our job.

What it comes down to is for Neoqb et al to fix these errors. This, unfortunately, takes time and is a matter of priority. We don't have a hand in that. Can you imagine what this would have been like if we hadn't been doing our jobs?

Shame on you for your post!

In saying all that, do I think they should have waited a bit longer for release? Certainly. the only problem then is we'd have another 5 or 6 threads moaning about the delay. What a catch 22!

OH..yeah!

Great conclusion there -- NOT!

...because as we all know, when beta testers point out a bug - the deveopers all drop everything their doing and rush to their PCs and fix it on the spot!

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I hate to tell this but I see Oleg flying AH2 all the time and I like AH2 FM waaaaaay better than IL2's but here again I think it's just what each guy prefers.

I like this game and it has no big content at release because that is NOT their marketing scheme, rather they plan to make money selling more content and that is not greedy it is just different from an online subscribtion game.

There alot of guys out there that don't want to pay, hell my wife is one of em who wants a caddy for chevy prices, they would rather fly an old FM that has been cannablized into a WWI sim for cheap and in some cases FREE. It's not gona be free here so I guess you will have to decide if ya want to hang in and buy the stuff you want as it comes along or not. The DRM tripe is just hackers being POed that they can't get to the code.

Are you serious or having a tug ?

how is the fm in il2 better.. i rofled..

The Beta testers pointed out a lot of bugs. Some were fixed, some weren't. Simple as that.

Some of us discussed a lot of the things that are in the game during the Beta.

You assume that just because we tested the Beta that the Devs would incorporate every suggestion and idea.

Interface is not that bad as far as I am concerned. At least to me it doesn't seem that much worse than anything that I haven't played before. I would like to be able to configure the game from within the game and not exit out to configure, test it out, then configure again. I know this complaint was posted on the boards. But.... I don't think there was a way to configure the engine to incorporate this without a major rewrite so it is something the testers lived with. Likewise it isn't a game killer but it is annoying.

As for the reverse controls, I never had that problem so I never had a bug or a complaint. My controllers worked perfectly (CH Fighterstick, Throttle Quadrant, Pedals) without any futzing so I didn't have anything to discuss. I know that there are some problems now, that should be fixed in a patch.

Again, I hate the idea of having to patch games but at least the nice thing now is that you don't have to wait until the copy of PC Gamer comes out get get an update CD to fix a game. It does mean games get released less polished, that is very true but it also means that we do get fixes a lot faster.

Um, not to be rude, but your reading comprehension seems to be lacking here.

Is not the same thing as:
Pros:
The flight model in IL2 is better.

It's difficult to compare FMs of planes you've never flown, as an earlier poster pointed out. Nothing has jumped out at me as significantly more complex or "real life" in ROF compared to IL2, which is why I made that statement. Also, notice that I included it in the "Pros" category.

If that's the best we have then the flightsim genre is in a far worse state than I initially thought. BoBII is a game built upon a ten year old game that was probably the buggiest mess of a sim ever foisted upon us.

That's good and all but game developers need to get their head of the sand because they just don't seem to realize how important first impressions are. And I've been burned on plenty of games that never saw those patches that promised to make a buggy mediocre game into a good game so I never buy based on promises of patches later.